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Post by profile1 on Oct 8, 2018 2:32:11 GMT
Wow. Hawks definately have goalie issues, PP issues defense issues and talent issues.
Traveras & Matthews on the same team ... killers. Oh, and Seabrook still sucks.
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Post by gadi on Oct 8, 2018 3:33:06 GMT
Ward was screened by JT on the last one I think. And 3 games in 4 nights makes me less critical than I would normally be. He wasn't good but whatever. That game was next shot wins whether the shot was good or not. Hawks may not be good this year but the games have been train wreck entertaining at least. That's in the coach then for not giving him a break. Not that Forsberg would've been better. Come back soon, Corky!
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Post by Pez68 on Oct 8, 2018 7:38:13 GMT
Exactly. Entertaining. Much better than the last two seasons, where it was like watching paint dry. I'd rather watch this hockey any day of the week.
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Post by Pez68 on Oct 8, 2018 8:08:20 GMT
Joker, 5A in 3 games, a +5. Advanced stats off the charts. "Doesn't look out of place."
It's early, but I'm not sure how he isn't in the "elite" category.
I'm thinking he's a Calder candidate at the end of the year.
Yeah, it's a hot take. I'm confident in it.
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 8, 2018 12:47:46 GMT
On so many plays out of the defensive zone, there was nowhere to go with the puck. Not a student of this by any means, but it seems at times like the Hawks are stuck in 2010 strategy mode on breakouts and the league caught up with it 5 years ago.
Confirmation that Hayden should be playing.
Seabrook looked like he was struggling with the second in the double weekend games. Rutta wasn't good either, and when he's not good, Gustafsson's weakness in the defensive zone is highlighted.
Agreed though, the game was fun to watch. Rejuvenated Toews is money, but he isn't Matthews.
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Post by dhull10 on Oct 8, 2018 14:18:40 GMT
Remember when Crows glove side was his liability and we thought that was terrible, well does Ward even wear a glove? But as I mentioned last night why was he playing his 3rd game in 4 nights? just another gaffe by Q. But 5 out of a possible 6 points is great and it's been entertaining so far.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 8, 2018 15:43:47 GMT
If your Forsberg and your healthy and you didn't play one of those theee games, is the last shred of confidence you had after last year now gone?
Not that it matters, he sucks badly, but Q didn't need to speed up the process...
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 8, 2018 15:49:31 GMT
5 points for those first three games is not a bad result.
One big concern is that they've gone defensive in the bottom six and they're giving up goals in the truckloads. Not all those goals are on Ward.
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Post by garyu on Oct 8, 2018 15:57:17 GMT
5 points for those first three games is not a bad result. One big concern is that they've gone defensive in the bottom six and they're giving up goals in the truckloads. Not all those goals are on Ward. A lot of deflections, no one clearing the front of the crease.
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Post by jimc on Oct 8, 2018 16:38:53 GMT
I dont even know what the fuck that was we watched last night?
Hawks have been entertaining as hell, but are so defensively inept...and technically unsound in their own zone...the goaltending is another matter entirely.
They had no business getting a point last night, but Sparky may have been worse than Ward...and the Laffs D is a clusterfuck.. No way is that a championship level team ..Laffs need to deal Nylander for a premium dman...for starters...they are going to miss McElhinney...Sparks wont be able to take the required load off of Andersen.
Hawks D sucks balls.. I mean...laughably...but its not the kids (mostly). It is the vets, led by 2 and 7 being absolute disasters...both in coverage and turnovers...plus whichever of Manning or Davidson suits up to dress like a pylon. Also...the 'scheme' sucks..mostly because there isnt one...are hey playing zone? Man to man? Passive? Aggressive? Who fucking knows?
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Post by jimc on Oct 8, 2018 16:40:04 GMT
Joker, 5A in 3 games, a +5. Advanced stats off the charts. "Doesn't look out of place." It's early, but I'm not sure how he isn't in the "elite" category. I'm thinking he's a Calder candidate at the end of the year. Yeah, it's a hot take. I'm confident in it. Might want a SLIGHTLY bigger sample size...kid is getting mega protected minutes and zone starts
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Post by Merpes on Oct 8, 2018 16:41:08 GMT
Nylander for Seabrook!
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Post by Merpes on Oct 8, 2018 16:45:14 GMT
Defense will be fine once Forsling and Murphy return!
Wait, what?
Hawks' D was good for so long because of the forwards not so much the defensemen. Any forward group consisting of Kane, Cat, and Schmaltz in the top 6 is not gonna support the defensive scheme. It would have been like if the Hawks of yesteryear dressed Kane and two Kris Versteeg's. They lack Hossa and Sharp type forwards especially since Saad turned into a pumpkin.
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Post by lari on Oct 8, 2018 17:00:21 GMT
That was a great hockey game to watch. Star power, back and forth action, old school goaltending and plenty of goals.
Toews continues to be amazing. Watching Kane & Matthews go blow for blow in a mini scoring feud was great.
Hawks deserved a tie, and got it.
Ward sucks. Hawks D wasn't actually terrible, they didn't allow too many shots and made plays, especially Gus & Joker were good with the puck. Mandog scored, how about that?
Kunitz sucks. He needs to sit. The only thing he contributes at this point in his career is veteran leadership, with his 4 Cups. But do the Hawks really need that, with all their 3-Cup-winners?
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Post by Merpes on Oct 8, 2018 17:03:36 GMT
Kunitz just buys a month or so for one of the kids down in Rockford probably Sikura will replace him soon.
Martinsen should be waived yesterday and Hayden in full-time for sure. What the hell is Q thinking?
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