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Post by lari on Nov 8, 2018 6:28:29 GMT
Obviously only all the good decisions were made by Scotty. Sometimes he let his son decide on some things, and those were the mistakes.
Like when Haviland and Kitchen alternated running special teams, and the efficiencies fluctuated accordingly.
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Post by brendan on Nov 8, 2018 7:23:16 GMT
long live the catfish!
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Post by garyu on Nov 8, 2018 15:29:58 GMT
Gary, if indeed Scotty has been making the decisions for Stan, behind the scenes, and the result so far has been 3 fucking Stanely cups, matching their output in the entire history before, is that really such a bad thing? Not my point at all, Kenny. McDLT's angry reply to the 'Scotty's the real brains behind the scenes' comment was all I was getting at...You really ran off with this one.
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Post by jimc on Nov 8, 2018 15:49:29 GMT
McD had to bribe scotty with Stan getting the job to get him to come work for hawks...don't forget scotty reports directly to McD.
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Post by Giovi on Nov 8, 2018 16:50:51 GMT
Gary, if indeed Scotty has been making the decisions for Stan, behind the scenes, and the result so far has been 3 fucking Stanely cups, matching their output in the entire history before, is that really such a bad thing? Not my point at all, Kenny. McDLT's angry reply to the 'Scotty's the real brains behind the scenes' comment was all I was getting at... You really ran off with this one. Scotch.
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Post by Giovi on Nov 8, 2018 16:54:31 GMT
Seriously though, its hard to tell how active Scotty is in the operations. Zawaski reported one source inside the team telling him it was a lot, and less than 24 hours later reported another source saying not much. Its Zawaski and all, but im betting really, he isnt much involved in the day to day.
Would they ask his opinion on a coaching change?....i hope so.
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Post by garyu on Nov 8, 2018 17:18:57 GMT
Seriously though, its hard to tell how active Scotty is in the operations. Zawaski reported one source inside the team telling him it was a lot, and less than 24 hours later reported another source saying not much. Its Zawaski and all, but im betting really, he isnt much involved in the day to day. Would they ask his opinion on a coaching change?....i hope so. Agreed. McDLT's defense of himself/Stan reminds me of Fredo(Godfather) proclaiming, 'I'm smart'!
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Post by gadi on Nov 8, 2018 17:22:11 GMT
Yeah I don't buy that Scotty is involved in day to day stuff. The whole point when he was came aboard was that he wanted to hang out in Florida and came to Chicago whenever he wanted. Add in his comments about Crawford, which even you dumb conspiracy theorists should now admit was concussion issues, and it sounds like he was phoning it in. Literally.
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Post by Pez68 on Nov 8, 2018 20:22:23 GMT
Scotty has more input than anyone here might imagine. He was interviewed on NHL radio back in October and they asked him about the terrible PP. His response mentioned "the next coach" and "more modern systems". He was absolutely consulted about firing Q, and probably had a lot to do with the Hawks going after Colliton. Barry Smith is a long time Scotty Bowman guy, after all.
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Post by Merpes on Nov 9, 2018 1:52:54 GMT
The only reason Stan is here is because of Scotty. Hawks aren't gonna fire Stan until Scotty passes away.
Basically Stan is the Hawks' Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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Post by garyu on Nov 9, 2018 3:23:23 GMT
The only reason Stan is here is because of Scotty. Hawks aren't gonna fire Stan until Scotty passes away. Basically Stan is the Hawks' Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Stan has broken ribs??
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Post by gadi on Nov 9, 2018 3:36:52 GMT
I'm not arguing his input. Obviously he would know Q was getting canned. But working on systems or game strategy? He's not going to give a fuck besides giving suggestions.
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Post by jimc on Nov 9, 2018 4:02:28 GMT
I'm not arguing his input. Obviously he would know Q was getting canned. But working on systems or game strategy? He's not going to give a fuck besides giving suggestions. ...and writing line combos down on cocktail napkins
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Post by Pez68 on Nov 9, 2018 11:27:20 GMT
Do the Hawks win the cup in 2010 without Scotty's input? We shall never know. Rumor has it, he went to Q and told him what lines to run on the flight home, which turned the Philly series around.
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Post by dhull10 on Nov 9, 2018 11:48:55 GMT
Scotty Bowman- www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/bowmasc99c.html
I was thinking he was great because of so many HOF'ers from his Canadians Dynasty but I forgot how many teams he won his 9 yes 9 Cups with (of course none with my Sabres)showing he had to adapt to the times and changes in the game. So even at 85 years old he probably still knows his hockey shit.Too bad Jr.didn't get those smarts.
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