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Apr 4, 2018 11:58:14 GMT
Post by jrsamu on Apr 4, 2018 11:58:14 GMT
It doesn't really fit the thread topic, but for any fan of Jesus Christ Superstar and at least the music, even with the massive disadvantages of a live television theatre performance and as bad as some of the previous attempts have been, NBC killed it on Sunday. It is worth dealing with the commercial interruptions.
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Post by soccer24 on Jun 4, 2018 6:13:36 GMT
I saw Solo today. I've enjoyed Force Awakens, Rogue One, & Last Jedi.
I cannot recommend anyone to see Solo. This one was just no good... I love Star Wars and am willing to defend to the death just about all of it, but this movie might have just been a notch or two above Prequel territory (which I refuse to acknowledge their existence, even though I just acknowledged their existence.)
SPOILERY CONTENT BELOW ON WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE . . . . . . . . . . . . . Did we really need an origin story for EVERYTHING related to Han Solo? Like, we got where his last name came form (which why couldn't that have just been his name? Did that need to be made up???) We got where his gun came form (again, I never realized this was of significance???) Then the same shit was happening with Chewie. We found out where his sash came form. We got like 3 lines of dialogue form Han that he wasn't going to call him Chewbacca because that was too long a name, so he was going to call him something shorter. ....Come on, what??? Does that need to be spelled out? Were people wondering why Han always called him Chewie instead of Chewbacca? I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POINT IS!
I guess I expected Han saving Chewie's life to be more significant....? Chewie is basically in a pit much like the rancor. And Han is thrown to him for his latest meal. Han comes up with a brilliant plan to escape. He tells Chewie to break one of the support beams in the pit/cage. Voila, they are freed! We'll ignore that Chewie never tried to do that on this own.
Then Han runs to the very people that threw him into the pit because he's convinced they are his friends who will help him out. I just don't get the logic of that.
Which is my major problem with the whole thing: This character didn't feel like Han Solo at all. Way too trusting, optimistic, and morally grounded. And in scenes where he was supposed to come off as arrogant, he really just came across as naive. This could have worked I guess if Han goes on a story arch that turns him into the Han we see in A New Hope but.... He's the exact same guy at the beginning as he is at the end.
Oh and also, he goes on a 3 year quest to reunite with his girlfriend who was forcibly taken from him. And so then when she abandons him at the end he's just kind of like, "Oh, weird. Anyway, let's go to Tatooine, Chewie!" Really? That's it? No reaction of any kind to that, huh?
Oh, ok, random space squid in the middle of space right next to a black hole. Guess we needed to cram in one more dumb action sequence that we knew wasn't a threat to anyone.
The 'reveal' of how the rival pirates were was stupid. They're in a final showdown and Woody goes, "They don't care about anybody, they're marauders!" So then the leader takes off their helmet to reveal something HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. You can tell by the dramatic music, the reaction shots of Han and Woody, that some shit just revealed itself! ......I don't really know what, but it was significant! (Like really. I don't get what the big twist was here???) Anyway, they're all friends now because the helmets are off and it turns out they are people just like Han and Woody are people. *shrug*
Lando's robot. This one is really confusing. It was an attempt at comic relief I guess, but I'm not sure who would be entertained by it? 'She' is made out to be a giant social justice warrior, fighting for equal rights for robots. I don't expect too many people such as myself are going to be much amused by it. And I don't expect too many people that can't stand people like me to not also be annoyed by it either. Really strange dynamic to throw in there. The scenes were supposed to be funny, but there were constant themes of slavery throughout the movie so I mean.... Haha? (Actual line of dialogue during a calm moment of the movie: Lando, "Can I get you anything?" Robot, "Equal rights." rofl!!!!!)
Too much nerdy/unrelatable Star Wars talk. This is very minor, as it only happened just two or three times. But weird references like, "This is just like when <alien species> on <random planet name> are doing <Star Wars universe specific thing>!" This was garbage the Prequels engaged way too much of as well. Don't get me wrong, the originals certainly do a bit of this. Whether it's Luke talking about shooting womp rats or Han being called a scruffy looking nerf herder. But those moments were more dressed up to be more relatable. I don't know what a nerfherder is, but she used several other words I do know before landing that final blow. Luke tells us how big a womprat is in units of measurement we understand. Like if we were to turn those into prequelish quotes it'd be like, "Come on Wedge. I used to blast womprats back home at Beggar's canyon and they were about 5 meelarts wide" or, "You Manadlorian-ego'ed, Kowakian-witted, hutt-faced, nerfherder!" It would have just been too much. (Like the amount of time I spent on this very insignifant portion)
So they kill the bad dude. With some stupid cliche'd action where Han is about to kill the bad dude, but his girlfriend stops him by slicing the gun out of his hand and is about to kill Han. OMB she's a traitor! No, nevermind, it was just a trick so that she could get the drop on the bad guy and kill him herself. Although this led to a duel between the two of them as getting the drop on him didn't amount to anything, and Han pretty much had a kill shot lined-up, but whatever, they got past it. And then she tells Han, "You need to go after Chewie! I need to get us some money s owe can buy a ship by lotting this place!" Come on... It only takes 5 seconds to grab a handful of generic looking jewels. I don't understand how Han fell for that lousy excuse.
And agian, I can't reiterate... The entire purpose of this movie was for Han to reunite with her. And it just ends on such an odd note without it being resolved to any degree.
And from that: I don't know what the point of this movie was. It added nothing. The only thing it accomplished was making me identify personality similarities between young-Solo and young-Anakin. And I don't mean Hayden-Anakin, I mean JakeLloyd-Anakin. Like both of them are motivated to become the best pilot in the galaxy so that they can see all of the stars and planets and.... Man, this movie was lame.
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Jun 28, 2018 17:19:54 GMT
Post by lari on Jun 28, 2018 17:19:54 GMT
I saw it last weekend. Found out way too much about Han Solo. Now he's just a plain idiot, instead of a cool jerk.
Kind of glad his son ended up murdering him.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 28, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
I also finally saw it last weekend. Was ok for what it was. Problem for me is that after this long I don't care about the origins of the iconic characters allthat much. But it was decent enough after a slower start.
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Jun 28, 2018 21:10:37 GMT
Post by soccer24 on Jun 28, 2018 21:10:37 GMT
Just re-read my initial thoughts. I stand by every word of it, including the angry/drunk typos.
To highlight some things I enjoyed:
When Lando & Han were on screen together, the movie felt better. I wonder if this movie would have worked as more of a buddy film between those two as they go off on a smuggling adventure filled with hijinks and scrappy problem solving.
And especially as khawk points out.... There really was just no need to try and give us a Solo origin story. Nothing about him needs to be explained. He has always been just a regular dude. Approaching it as an origin story was definitely the wrong way. And even if we were doing his origin story, the things that make up Han Solo has nothing to do with his name, his nicknames for others, or the specific type of gun he has; it's all about his personality and who he is as a person. The movie never bothered building towards any of that.
I think now my greatest fear is that Emlia Clarke will end up being Rey's mom. And who knows, maybe Han's the father too because everyone in Star Wars has to be related. (The clue is that at the very end Darth Maul mentions something about returning home to Dathomir, which at least in the books, was a hot-bed for female Force-users, who were self-described as witches.)
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Jun 28, 2018 21:59:57 GMT
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 28, 2018 21:59:57 GMT
Well there had to be some sort of connection later, so maybe that Is it (blech).
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Jun 29, 2018 14:18:04 GMT
Post by soccer24 on Jun 29, 2018 14:18:04 GMT
I mean.... There doesn't have to be. I feel like forcing a connection would come across as some poorly written fan fiction.
I feel like Rey's underdog status is enhanced if her parents are just left as 2 people that we shouldn't give a shit about. It's ok to leave things like this as a forever-unknown.
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Jun 30, 2018 2:56:34 GMT
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 30, 2018 2:56:34 GMT
Agreed.
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Jul 2, 2018 11:00:46 GMT
Post by Jimmy on Jul 2, 2018 11:00:46 GMT
I saw Star Wars this Sunday. I didn't particularly like it. I watched it on Netflix last night and it was a total joke. How they decided to give Rian Johnson his own trilogy after this blows my mind. I completely understand how Luke Skywalker was crapping on the film in all of his interviews.
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Jul 3, 2018 1:46:24 GMT
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Post by jimc on Jul 3, 2018 1:46:24 GMT
Deadpool2 was very much fun
Blade Runner 2049 was garbage...snd I loved the original
It is Prometheus to the original Alien
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Oct 21, 2018 13:01:21 GMT
Post by dhull10 on Oct 21, 2018 13:01:21 GMT
A Star is Born- Good movie and we know Gaga can sing and also act a bit as well. It was bugging me who played her Father. I knew I knew it but said Oh yeah when the credits rolled.
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Oct 22, 2018 17:31:49 GMT
Post by gadi on Oct 22, 2018 17:31:49 GMT
Always nice to see Dice on screen. He was surprisingly great in the Showtime show about his "comeback".
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Apr 12, 2019 19:20:50 GMT
Post by gadi on Apr 12, 2019 19:20:50 GMT
Nerds of the world rejoice. The new Star Wars movie has been named, "Star Wars: Attack of the SJWs"
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Apr 19, 2019 18:46:28 GMT
Post by jimc on Apr 19, 2019 18:46:28 GMT
poor soccer
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Apr 21, 2019 14:21:17 GMT
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