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Post by dhull10 on Dec 7, 2018 10:40:59 GMT
The Optimist will say -The Hawks weren't down the standard 2-0 until 8 minutes gone, usually its in the 1st 5 minutes. The Hawks scored a natural hat trick, 3 straight goals and actually had a lead!
The pessimist/Realist will say - wtf **&^%$#@*&^%#@ grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.F-ing LOSERS!!!!!!!.
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 7, 2018 14:49:54 GMT
Two of the three best defensemen from the cup runs are now playing middling 2nd pair level at best (Keith) and 3rd pair with sheltered minutes at best (Seabrook). The rest of the blueline is a blazing hot mess in its own end, as bad as any we've seen in a long, long time.
Confidence is a big factor in hockey, and there isn't much wearing the Indian head at the moment. They are skating and waiting for something bad to happen.
I actually think that Strome is going to be a solid move, but it will take Perlini becoming a player for the Hawks for that trade to be a progress trade. Hopefully this is teething, but right now Perlini looks like his confidence is shot also.
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Post by garyu on Dec 7, 2018 15:59:43 GMT
Two of the three best defensemen from the cup runs are now playing middling 2nd pair level at best (Keith) and 3rd pair with sheltered minutes at best (Seabrook). The rest of the blueline is a blazing hot mess in its own end, as bad as any we've seen in a long, long time. Confidence is a big factor in hockey, and there isn't much wearing the Indian head at the moment. They are skating and waiting for something bad to happen. I actually think that Strome is going to be a solid move, but it will take Perlini becoming a player for the Hawks for that trade to be a progress trade. Hopefully this is teething, but right now Perlini looks like his confidence is shot also. Strome's been good relatively. Perlini, I don't know what he's doin.
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Post by khawk20 on Dec 7, 2018 18:16:40 GMT
In fairness most of the team is playing in a way you would ask "what are they doing?"....
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 7, 2018 21:23:38 GMT
I wish I had an Andrew Jackson for every time this season I've seen multiple hawk players all go to the puck or the same player at the same time leaving a chasm for the uncovered player to exploit. It is comical, but even more so when we saw the same when Q was still behind the bench.
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Post by lari on Dec 7, 2018 21:58:09 GMT
If I had an Andrew Jackson every time Seabrook hustled and won a puck battle I would have zero dollars.
I'd even settle for him not getting walked by 4th liners like Will Carrier.
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Post by Merpes on Dec 8, 2018 5:15:35 GMT
Hard to say what's left in Keith and Seabrook until you get them into a better atmosphere on a new team. Hawks are a dumpster fire so what you see now is more of a reflection of the team's direction more so than their abilities at this point in their careers.
Keith in Toronto makes them the favorite to win the Cup.
Seabrook is still top 4 just not here in Chicago.
It's up to Stan to sell that to other GMs. Unfortunately, I don't think Stan could sell water to a stranded person in the Sahara.
Many of us have been in similar situations at work before. You simply lack desire to even show up and when you do, who gives a fuck? Just get me my paycheck and get out the way. I mean when Jim requires assless chap Fridays it kind of ruins the entire week.
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Post by jimc on Dec 8, 2018 8:44:46 GMT
Seabrook has trouble as an AHL top 4
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Post by garyu on Dec 8, 2018 15:50:12 GMT
Seabrook has trouble as an AHL top 4 The game Keith got kicked out of, I believe was Seabs best game...I think he and Keith are spending way too much time trying to cover for the rest of that stellar group.
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Post by lari on Dec 8, 2018 16:11:16 GMT
Maybe they just need motivation? You're surrounded by a bunch of wimpy losers who don't care about winning. Why even bother? It's easier to join the happy, relaxed bunch. Save your energy for after work.
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Post by Giovi on Dec 8, 2018 16:31:47 GMT
Seabs has generally been his best this year when his minutes are low. Hes fine as a 5 guy. Thats not what hes paid to be but it is what it is.
I doubt he or Keith are going anywhere unless they ask out. But Keith would still be pretty attractive to playoff bound teams with some cap space. As was said, Toronto would improve their cup chances large by adding him.
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Post by lari on Dec 8, 2018 16:55:13 GMT
Why would he waive his NMC? Keith has a comfortable position in Chicago as a player/coach.
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Post by khawk20 on Dec 8, 2018 17:23:19 GMT
Why would he waive his NMC? Keith has a comfortable position in Chicago as a player/coach. Maybe he wants to compete for another Cup. That won't happen in the time he has remaining here. Flip him to Toronto for jake gardiner and sign gardiner to a deal. Or have Toronto sign him and then trade him. Gardiner sucks but he'd be a good pp quarterback and he's probably better than anything the Hawks are trotting out there now.
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Post by lari on Dec 8, 2018 17:51:53 GMT
I don't want Gardiner. WTF is he good for? I'd rather Keith retire a Hawk.
If you need to trade a vet and want something in return, trade Kane. Maybe soccer will come back to the boards.
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Post by dbc on Dec 8, 2018 19:24:38 GMT
Ditto, Gardiner blows.
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