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Post by tedbulley on Apr 10, 2019 15:51:17 GMT
Got to go Byram. How many Russians have succeeded with the Hawks? Pass on the rusky.
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Post by brendan on Apr 10, 2019 16:05:16 GMT
khabibulin? karpo? korolev? vorbiev? um... runblad?
krivokrasov!got one.
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Post by Pain101 on Apr 10, 2019 16:43:31 GMT
khabibulin? karpo? korolev? vorbiev? um... runblad? krivokrasov!got one. BoBo!
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Post by lari on Apr 10, 2019 17:42:05 GMT
Got to go Byram. How many Russians have succeeded with the Hawks? Pass on the rusky. If you don't take the Russian, I think you need to trade down. The dumb thing to do is not take the 3rd best player, but still keep the pick. There are teams who are years away from being competitive, who want Podzy and are willing to wait for him. Give 'em a call and see what they are willing to offer.
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Post by lari on Apr 10, 2019 17:56:48 GMT
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Post by ballz09 on Apr 10, 2019 18:56:44 GMT
Pretty typical 300 level that when the Hawks win the #3 pick someone mentions Barker but no one mentions Toews. As long as this doesnt result in Podkolzin its great. Hes under contract for 2 years in the KHL. No one can say with any certainty when or if hell come to the NHL. Don't be so cranky, Giovi. You'll be able to drive around in your purple convertible with the top down before you know it. Pacers were available as a rag top ?
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Post by garyu on Apr 10, 2019 19:28:56 GMT
Go Byram unless the Rangers over think this and leave Kakko for the Hawks. I'm not going to pretend that I watched a lot of junior hockey this last year. But strictly from an asset management perspective, the opportunity to acquire a potential top-pairing defenceman who actually has some size, can skate and is a LD when the rest of our young D prospects are RD is one that is very hard to pass up. I'd rather take my chances there as opposed to a winger who may not come over for a year or two in Podkolzin. From there, maybe you can trade one of the other D prospects for a young F or a D-man that might help next year. Regardless, a great break for the Hawks last night no matter how you slice it. Make it so.
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Post by gadi on Apr 10, 2019 20:10:05 GMT
Got to go Byram. How many Russians have succeeded with the Hawks? Pass on the rusky. If you don't take the Russian, I think you need to trade down. The dumb thing to do is not take the 3rd best player, but still keep the pick. There are teams who are years away from being competitive, who want Podzy and are willing to wait for him. Give 'em a call and see what they are willing to offer. I agree with this and I wouldn't be surprised if Stan does also. Stan doesn't have time to wait on a project. I think it's fair to assume that he's gone after next season unless the team is better. So there seems to be little chance he'll take the Russian kid and it makes all the sense in the world to check with other teams to see what the Hawks can get for trading down. BTW, the idea that "Russians" haven't worked out with the Hawks is the dumbest reason for the Hawks not to draft a player. Putting aside Panarin, the fact is that the league's best scorer is Russian and to say "well the organization doesn't have the best track record with this nationality" is fucking stupid.
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Post by Merpes on Apr 13, 2019 3:22:42 GMT
Unless one of Hughes or Kakko fall into the Hawks' lap, you go Byram. Even though the Hawks have drafted a multitude of dmen over the last 3 years, none of them have proven a thing at the NHL level. Byram would be the best prospect the Hawks have immediately plus it sounds like he could make the jump right away or just require one more year in juniors/AHL. Hawks don't have problems scoring goals. They have problems with possession and defense. Byram, Joker, Boqvist, Mitchell. That's deep and talented. The one thing that all NHL teams covet is young defensemen so the Hawks can always trade from a surplus to address a forward need. Right now, you count on all 4 being NHL regulars.
I have a feeling the Rangers are gonna draft the next Pavel Brendl. Does Stan entertain a trade down where you give up Hughes/Kakko but you possibly get Byram plus a bunch more?
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Post by Merpes on Apr 13, 2019 3:56:01 GMT
If you don't take the Russian, I think you need to trade down. The dumb thing to do is not take the 3rd best player, but still keep the pick. There are teams who are years away from being competitive, who want Podzy and are willing to wait for him. Give 'em a call and see what they are willing to offer. I agree with this and I wouldn't be surprised if Stan does also. Stan doesn't have time to wait on a project. I think it's fair to assume that he's gone after next season unless the team is better. So there seems to be little chance he'll take the Russian kid and it makes all the sense in the world to check with other teams to see what the Hawks can get for trading down. BTW, the idea that "Russians" haven't worked out with the Hawks is the dumbest reason for the Hawks not to draft a player. Putting aside Panarin, the fact is that the league's best scorer is Russian and to say "well the organization doesn't have the best track record with this nationality" is fucking stupid. They really don't have a good track record with Russians. Korolev and Karpo are dead, and Khabby is passed out drunk under a bridge in Moscow.
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Post by Merpes on Apr 13, 2019 4:04:26 GMT
Cam Barker wasn't that bad. He was brought up right when the Hawks were opening their window. Maybe he should have stayed in the AHL a bit longer? Stan should call him up and see if he wants to play in Rockford as one of the vets.
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Post by lari on Apr 13, 2019 12:53:30 GMT
Is Byram the new Barker? Bowen Barker.
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Post by khawk20 on Apr 13, 2019 14:28:12 GMT
One thing to think about: if Stan does take the Russian kid, is that to be taken as him having complete job security insofar as he will be drafting a kid a few years from helping this team?
The thought kind of disturbs me.
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Post by gadi on Apr 14, 2019 1:29:48 GMT
One thing to think about: if Stan does take the Russian kid, is that to be taken as him having complete job security insofar as he will be drafting a kid a few years from helping this team? The thought kind of disturbs me. Yeah I think there's no question that if they take the Russian, Stan is here for the long haul.
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Post by garyu on Apr 19, 2019 17:01:36 GMT
Chris Westcott of Blackhawks.com wrote this...No mention of Byram...
The Chicago Blackhawks will be able to select a potential game-changer at third overall in the 2019 NHL Draft on June 21 in Vancouver.
Among the top names are players like Jack Hughes from the USA Development Program. The dynamic center is projected to be the first-overall pick.
Finnish phenom Kaapo Kakko and Russian standout Vasily Podkolzin are NHL Central Scouting's top-ranked European skaters and will be among those mentioned as potential Blackhawks selections.
WHLers Kirby Dach from Saskatoon and Dylan Cozens from Lethbridge are also expected to be in play as top picks.
Check out NHL Central Scouting's list of top prospects HERE. We'll have more coverage of top prospects leading up to the draft on Blackhawks.com.
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