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Post by khawk20 on Jan 17, 2024 11:05:12 GMT
How much cap space do the hawks have, exactly?
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Post by Merpes on Jan 17, 2024 11:51:07 GMT
Even with the extensions, Hawks only added about 2.5 million in cap next year. Foligno was just a 500k raise and Dickinson a little under 2 million increase. Cap is also expected to increase 4 million next year if I remember the projection. So in reality, Hawks still are -1.5 million in cap.
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Post by jrsamu on Jan 17, 2024 14:17:49 GMT
There is going to be a point, and maybe the front office thinks they are there now, where continued turnover in personnel becomes more of a negative than positive for the guys they are trying to build around.
The goaltender will likely be worth more than either Foligno or Dickenson on the trade market. This may be an acknowledgement of the state of the forward lines, and they will need more talented adds there than just the prospects. Nobody hits on the all the prospects, and the Hawks track record of late hasn't been great on the forward side.
I know he is a bottom six guy, but it still seems stupid that the Hawks didn't part with a 5th rounder for Lafferty.
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Post by Merpes on Jan 17, 2024 18:18:21 GMT
Even with extensions, Hawks sit at 44 million with a floor of 61 million for current season. If cap goes up to 88 million, the floor should jump as well. Maybe KD is afraid there won’t be enough has beens to sign for 20 million next offseason?
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Post by Merpes on Jan 22, 2024 2:03:09 GMT
Blackwell is on Cameo for $30 bucks a video. Lari seems to have a chubby for Colin so should we pool together a few bucks each to have Colin send Lari a personal message?
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Post by garyu on Jan 22, 2024 3:50:39 GMT
Blackwell is on Cameo for $30 bucks a video. Lari seems to have a chubby for Colin so should we pool together a few bucks each to have Colin send Lari a personal message? Colin can send Lari some Colon stuff
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Post by stbhawks19 on Jan 24, 2024 15:54:17 GMT
Mrazek extension 2 years, $8M - so much for dealing him to a desperate team at the deadline.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 24, 2024 16:05:21 GMT
Jesus fucking Christ.
I like the Foligno signing…can live with the Dickinson signing…but this signing is terrible.
I’m this year of teams dying for goalie depth, you could have got a lot more than he was worth at the deadline. A lot more. He’s having a good year. I won’t argue that. But fuck, this was your last real chance to stockpile some nice picks this year.
Now? Fuck, KDs plan might be to suck for a full five years before they’re competitive again.
Mrazek will be hurt long term at some point and it won’t be someone else problem, it’ll be the hawks problem now.
Shit. Poor move.
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Post by Giovi on Jan 24, 2024 17:50:09 GMT
The Hawks needed a dependable bridge between now and whenever Commesso or Sorderblom are ready to be an NHL #1. It's not good for the young defensemen to try to learn the NHL game in front of a non-NHL goalie.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 24, 2024 17:58:01 GMT
The Hawks needed a dependable bridge between now and whenever Commesso or Sorderblom are ready to be an NHL #1. It's not good for the young defensemen to try to learn the NHL game in front of a non-NHL goalie. I don't disagree with that but will Mrazek stay healthy enough for two years to let that happen?
I still think he would have been a big asset grabber at the TDL.
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Post by Giovi on Jan 24, 2024 18:07:47 GMT
The Hawks needed a dependable bridge between now and whenever Commesso or Sorderblom are ready to be an NHL #1. It's not good for the young defensemen to try to learn the NHL game in front of a non-NHL goalie. I don't disagree with that but will Mrazek stay healthy enough for two years to let that happen?
I still think he would have been a big asset grabber at the TDL.
His health is a concern, granted. But at this point, I think his reliability right now is a pretty big factor in the development of the young d already in Chicago. And could be for those who will come up in the next two years. I guess they had to weigh that against his potential return in trade.
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Post by lari on Jan 24, 2024 18:31:20 GMT
Dickinson and Mrazek will never have trade values even close to what they were now, seconds before their re-signings. And Foligno just got overpaid. A fourth liner making 4.5m just makes everyone else on the team want more.
I'd have traded the whole lot of them, and moved on to whatever's next on the trash heap July 1st or waivers in October.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 24, 2024 18:44:08 GMT
I don't disagree with that but will Mrazek stay healthy enough for two years to let that happen?
I still think he would have been a big asset grabber at the TDL.
His health is a concern, granted. But at this point, I think his reliability right now is a pretty big factor in the development of the young d already in Chicago. And could be for those who will come up in the next two years. I guess they had to weigh that against his potential return in trade. Fair enough.
I do think that his value this TDL would have been pretty big if he stayed healthy and kept up his current play. Goaltending, both play and depth is a real problem for some contenders this year...could have been a perfect storm to get a really good return for a guy that normally wouldn't have much return value.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 24, 2024 18:48:13 GMT
Dickinson and Mrazek will never have trade values even close to what they were now, seconds before their re-signings. And Foligno just got overpaid. A fourth liner making 4.5m just makes everyone else on the team want more. I'd have traded the whole lot of them, and moved on to whatever's next on the trash heap July 1st or waivers in October. Foligno = good signing. Works hard, good example, defacto temporary captain.
Dickison = meh signing. gets a guy having a career year at a higher cost than anyone else would have paid. Having said that, I thought he was as good as could be last year so maybe he has another level to hit. Probably not. Give me him for couple of years at half that and it's a good signing.
Mrazek signing = not good just for the TDL opportunity wasted in a year he would have been coveted by a few teams. That won't happen again. As a stop gap to let the young D develop and the young Goalies come up and be backups to learn the league, its' ok if he stays healthy. If he doesn't, this signing is a total fail. Time will tell.
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Post by garyu on Jan 24, 2024 19:05:01 GMT
Coulda waited on Mrazek. On the other hand, Hawks are dangerously close to ticket giveaways. Gotta keep at least a few that can actually play.
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