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Post by lari on Dec 31, 2018 8:19:24 GMT
The Hawks got MacKenzie Entwistle in that Hino trade, yes? That's not nothing. He could be a player.
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Post by Merpes on Dec 31, 2018 13:53:33 GMT
With Hughes, Kane, and Debrincat, there is no room for additional smurfs like Hino.
You see what I did there?
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Post by Merpes on Dec 31, 2018 13:54:48 GMT
Stan is killing it right now actually. Garrison should be ticketed for Rockford to be the vet leader on D down there. UFA at year end. Win. Cags can slide into some 3rd line duty and see if a change of scenery helps. Cags is signed through next season at 1.5 million but he could be buried with a cap hit of less than 300k most likely. Acquiring Cags has a little Verstud nostalgia for whatever reason. These are the kind of trades you need to pan out to get ahead of other teams. 'Cags' woulda been happier if his old linemate, 'Schmaltzy' was still here...He's pretty small, maybe Stan thinks he's a D-man. Arizona is already on the line waiting for Stan to unload Cags.
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Post by jimc on Dec 31, 2018 15:01:26 GMT
Where will he be dealt as a sweetener for someone to take Saad off Stan's hands?
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Post by Merpes on Dec 31, 2018 15:46:13 GMT
Where will he be dealt as a sweetener for someone to take Saad off Stan's hands? Oooo, I like this game.
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Post by garyu on Dec 31, 2018 15:52:09 GMT
Where will he be dealt as a sweetener for someone to take Saad off Stan's hands? Maybe be a viable target, Saad's been pretty good...
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Post by markwojo on Dec 31, 2018 18:26:29 GMT
I like Caggiula a bit more then Hino. More of a goal scorer, slightly bigger (yes...the tallest midget lol) and has some physicality to his game (2.7 hits per game....even if they are all bouncing off the other guy.....annoying pestilence) as opposed to just skating really really fast ala Hino.
I am far from a Stunley fanboy....he has constantly overpaid 500k-1 million to much on his signings and often a year or 2 to much term and self created more cap problems then we ever should have had. If fairness, if you look at his last 3 trades, he has actually done quite well.
Out: Hino, Hossa, Osterle, 3rd. Manning, Schmaltz
In: Kruger (1 year bad money), Entwhistle, 5th, Caggiula, Perlini, Strome.
When you consider Schmaltz's agent was comparing him to his other client (Larkin 6.1 x 5 years), I'll take the extra year to figure out what Strome is (since he has another year on his ELC) before getting backed into the corner of overpaying Schmaltz…but so far Strome is more likeable to me in that I think he is an actual NHL center where Schmaltz is not.
You dumped Hossa and Mannings cap hits...and yes I know Manning is self created...but at this point it seems pretty obvious that was a Q inspired signing. Only bad money you took back was a year of Kruger.
Entwhislte, Perlini and a 5th for a 3rd and Osterle are a significant win.
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Post by Merpes on Dec 31, 2018 18:43:43 GMT
Being able to flip Kruger at the TDL would be icing on the cake of the Hossa deal. Krugs had the warrior spirit during those Cup runs and took a lot of pressure off of Toews when Q could match up Kruger against the # 1 line for the other team.
I wouldn't be against Kruger being brought back next year, but it would need to be for 1.25 million at most although I think the Hawks feel Kampf has replaced him.
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Post by Giovi on Dec 31, 2018 20:49:50 GMT
Youre right, this is a minor trade. But getting rid of Manning is a real good deal for the hawks. And you characterizing Caggiula as garbage after repeatedly referring to Hinostroza as a wasted asset is nothing short of comical. Same age, same game, same size, same attributes....same points per game average. They are virtually the same player. But one is garbage and the other is a wasted asset. You funny. Are you missing the point where stan gave away asset A for nothing to garner unneeded cap space? LMFAO. Take off the Tommy Hawk costume. Caggiula also scored almost all his points with mcD and Drsisaitl. He has never produced eith lester linemates...let's see. All of Manning Hino and Caggiula suck in reality. I'm thrilled stan got rid of his own mistake...everybody arm dance!!! Panties sufficiently bunched.
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Post by lari on Dec 31, 2018 20:56:33 GMT
Being able to flip Kruger at the TDL would be icing on the cake of the Hossa deal. Krugs had the warrior spirit during those Cup runs and took a lot of pressure off of Toews when Q could match up Kruger against the # 1 line for the other team. I wouldn't be against Kruger being brought back next year, but it would need to be for 1.25 million at most although I think the Hawks feel Kampf has replaced him. Kruger during Cup runs = good/awesome Kruger today = bad/terrible You don't bring him back. "Thanks for all the years, see you at heritage night in October 2032". That's what Stan needs to say. Kruger is not owed anything anymore, not after that last big money deal he was given for all the previous years of solid service.
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Post by jimc on Dec 31, 2018 22:56:20 GMT
Are you missing the point where stan gave away asset A for nothing to garner unneeded cap space? LMFAO. Take off the Tommy Hawk costume. Caggiula also scored almost all his points with mcD and Drsisaitl. He has never produced eith lester linemates...let's see. All of Manning Hino and Caggiula suck in reality. I'm thrilled stan got rid of his own mistake...everybody arm dance!!! Panties sufficiently bunched. As in any time anyone says anything negative about your hawks!!
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Post by khawk20 on Dec 31, 2018 23:10:46 GMT
Being able to flip Kruger at the TDL would be icing on the cake of the Hossa deal. Krugs had the warrior spirit during those Cup runs and took a lot of pressure off of Toews when Q could match up Kruger against the # 1 line for the other team. I wouldn't be against Kruger being brought back next year, but it would need to be for 1.25 million at most although I think the Hawks feel Kampf has replaced him. Kruger during Cup runs = good/awesome Kruger today = bad/terrible You don't bring him back. "Thanks for all the years, see you at heritage night in October 2032". That's what Stan needs to say. Kruger is not owed anything anymore, not after that last big money deal he was given for all the previous years of solid service. Yeah with the current state of the Hawks, best to test out younger less breakable options and see if they fit.
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Post by brendan on Dec 31, 2018 23:26:09 GMT
anyone see any long term benefit to this one ? looks like getting a year off books with manning ? and a just maybe in caligula?
i liked garrison in florida, but i think that ship has sailed.
also yikes!!! no thanks kruger. hes done, please plug anyone else in that role.
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Post by lari on Dec 31, 2018 23:32:56 GMT
anyone see any long term benefit to this one ? Nah, it doesn't fix any long term issues. It's a minor move. Hawks aren't going to win the Cup next season, with or without Manning. But I'd rather a minor win than a minor fail.
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Post by jimc on Jan 1, 2019 0:38:36 GMT
Garrison has already cleared waivers.
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