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Post by jimc on Jul 1, 2019 22:49:30 GMT
Just one year so I'm ok with that. Maybe corky is literally one shot away from retirement? Each guy is one drink...or sniff... away from retirement
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Post by gadi on Jul 1, 2019 22:52:47 GMT
Even if he's not, he played 67 games over the past two seasons. Who would you rather have when he's out? Some combination of Delia and Lankinen or a guy who was top 3 in Vezina voting last year? Hell, look at who else was available as a UFA. You want Mike Smith? Talbot?
With a better D and a goalie who's decent, the Hawks might actually make the playoffs
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Post by jimc on Jul 1, 2019 22:55:07 GMT
Teams use the RFA offer sheet when they are desperate. Clearly the Habs are desperate but didn't do a good enough job of structuring the deal to actually get Aho, based on Waddell's comments. Not sure how you can come out of this thinking the Canes are a joke--for entertaining their fans last season? quelle horreur! It's not desperation at all..its a calculated move...a chance to obtain a budding young star for a reasonable coat. They identified a team that was weakjd might not be qbkenor willing to match...they also identified the coarse they were willing to absorb...especially in terms of draft capital...that number didnr materialize out of thin air. Were the sharks desperate or shrewd when they dropped that offer sheet on the hawks? As for Carolina...shit organization on a shit market that cant draw flies and has to resort to cheap gimmickery to put a sea in the seats...yes...entertaining the 'fans'...fuck me.
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Post by jimc on Jul 1, 2019 22:56:05 GMT
Even if he's not, he played 67 games over the past two seasons. Who would you rather have when he's out? Some combination of Delia and Lankinen or a guy who was top 3 in Vezina voting last year? Hell, look at who else was available as a UFA. You want Mike Smith? Talbot? With a better D and a goalie who's decent, the Hawks might actually make the playoffs For $5 mil? Ok Lol And you arent getting NYI Lehner
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Post by gadi on Jul 1, 2019 23:11:26 GMT
Of course the Sharks were desperate when the offer sheeted Hjalmersson. As were the Flames with O'Reilly, the Hawks with Tkachuk etc
And if it was a moderate offer than it doesn't help aside from give the team controlling the RFA rights an easier time signing the same deal.
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Post by jimc on Jul 1, 2019 23:28:23 GMT
Its all about the front loaded deal...cold hard cash.
It's not desperation...the offering team loses nothing in the attempt...its simply brinksmanship.
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Post by tedbulley on Jul 2, 2019 0:10:00 GMT
I'll take this Hawks team over the Habs all day every day. I may not like Stain but Jesus Jim you literally do nothing but bash the Hawks.
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Post by gadi on Jul 2, 2019 0:45:14 GMT
Its all about the front loaded deal...cold hard cash. It's not desperation...the offering team loses nothing in the attempt...its simply brinksmanship. Except if the team matches, they have nothing and missed out on all the good, albeit over paid, UFAs.
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Post by jimc on Jul 2, 2019 0:52:13 GMT
Its all about the front loaded deal...cold hard cash. It's not desperation...the offering team loses nothing in the attempt...its simply brinksmanship. Except if the team matches, they have nothing and missed out on all the good, albeit over paid, UFAs. So they missed out on guys they never wanted? interesting...
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Post by gadi on Jul 2, 2019 1:03:03 GMT
Yeah I'm sure Habs fans & ownership don't mind that they've missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years. But sure, standing pat is a great idea! Unless you think Kinkaid and Barber are the missing pieces.
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Post by garyu on Jul 2, 2019 1:32:09 GMT
Just one year so I'm ok with that. Maybe corky is literally one shot away from retirement? Exactly.
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Post by Pez68 on Jul 2, 2019 1:36:40 GMT
Its all about the front loaded deal...cold hard cash. It's not desperation...the offering team loses nothing in the attempt...its simply brinksmanship. Except if the team matches, they have nothing and missed out on all the good, albeit over paid, UFAs. Exactly. Carolina likely waits the full 7 days to match this, leaving Montreal in limbo. This offer sheet never had a chance of working. I mean, Carolina came right out and said they expected it to be higher. At this point them dropping the offer sheet only hurts them. For all the shit Jim talks about Bowman, Bergevin is 100 times worse.
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Post by jimc on Jul 2, 2019 1:42:47 GMT
Yeah I'm sure Habs fans & ownership don't mind that they've missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 4 years. But sure, standing pat is a great idea! Unless you think Kinkaid and Barber are the missing pieces. Oh dear...you seem to lack understanding of the rebuilding process. Is stan bowman your cousin?
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Post by jimc on Jul 2, 2019 1:50:47 GMT
Except if the team matches, they have nothing and missed out on all the good, albeit over paid, UFAs. Exactly. Carolina likely waits the full 7 days to match this, leaving Montreal in limbo. This offer sheet never had a chance of working. I mean, Carolina came right out and said they expected it to be higher. At this point them dropping the offer sheet only hurts them. For all the shit Jim talks about Bowman, Bergevin is 100 times worse. It doesnt matter how long Carolina takes. When you are rebuilding you have no business chasing old free agents...a 21 year old budding star entering his prime? Much different story...and the amount was based on only losing a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick...I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension here...habs have enough cap space to make other moves.if they wish...especially with the 10% summer overage. Once again...the offer us designed to back Carolina...a cash strapped small market team into a corner in yrs one and 2. If it doesn't work...oh well...they still wont be signing the same guys like Duchene and Panarin they didnt sign today. Nor should they. I think the whole offer sheet scenario is rather fascinating...I think we will see more of it in the coming years. I am guessing nobody will sheet Marner because it will cost 3-4 first rounders.
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Post by gadi on Jul 2, 2019 2:07:39 GMT
Oh rebuilding! It'll go great with Weber and Price locked up 7 more years!
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