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Post by dhull10 on Oct 13, 2019 2:20:16 GMT
And no Hawk game is complete without them giving up a Power Play goal.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 13, 2019 2:46:41 GMT
If that's the case it was a shit thing to do to the jets to leave it until training camp to take his LOA. Who said the Jets didn't know? He might have said at the end of last season "I'm done" and the Jets just kept checking in to see if he had changed his mind until making an official announcement before training camp. They needed his salary to sign Laine and Connor, didn't they? I think they probably make a better contingency plan with their defense if they knew. It's a last minute cobble job if they have to grab a guy off waivers from the Hawks! lol
Seriously I think if they new Buff was doing this to the degree he has done it, maybe they find a way to make Trouba or Myers work in their cap, or make a trade to get someone to better fill the void on D. They aren't a bad team up front but they aren't winning anything with that D, after being thought of as a legit top contender last year.
Just my opinion. I think if Winny knew more earlier it would have changed their narrative in how they built and/or repaired their team over the summer in the wake of Free agency.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 13, 2019 2:47:28 GMT
as for tonights schmozz, nice start, shit finish, which I have a feeling will be a constant theme this season.
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Post by jimc on Oct 13, 2019 2:53:46 GMT
There is no way Dahlstrom is playing for the jets if they knew they had to replace buff ahead of time.
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Post by jimc on Oct 13, 2019 2:54:15 GMT
That was a pretty epic choke job tonight...gutless.
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Post by stbhawks19 on Oct 13, 2019 3:40:33 GMT
If Crow in, 6-3 Jets If Lehner in, 3-2 Jets How does Lehner make the Hawks score one less goal? Nailed it!
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Post by brendan on Oct 13, 2019 7:58:35 GMT
ick...looked so bad 2nd n 3rd.
wtf with the lines? built to fail.
lehner looked good. and dehaan looked good.
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Post by lari on Oct 13, 2019 13:27:15 GMT
The Jets team D was awful. Open doors, especially in the first. Hawks should have tallied more than 2.
But the Jets have got some good puck possession forwards and they took over the game. Hawks D-men played well outside of the 2-2 equalizer where de Haan/Gusto were like two clowns chasing each other (plus I think it was Toews who was supposed to have Copp). The pairs were about as good as you can make with the pieces available:
Keith - Murphy de Haan - Gustafsson Maatta - Seabrook
The D didn't lose the game. The Hawks should have scored more than two against the smelly, disorganised mess they played against. Hawks forwards outside of Saad sucked.
The most shocking thing to me is how they played against the big bad Jets, and OUTHIT them by a fair margin! Q hockey is dead.
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Post by stbhawks19 on Oct 13, 2019 15:14:42 GMT
Tying goal was horrendous. Again you have 2 D chasing one player and a Jets F is left alone in front of the net. Inexcusable.
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Post by garyu on Oct 13, 2019 15:16:18 GMT
The Jets team D was awful. Open doors, especially in the first. Hawks should have tallied more than 2. But the Jets have got some good puck possession forwards and they took over the game. Hawks D-men played well outside of the 2-2 equalizer where de Haan/Gusto were like two clowns chasing each other (plus I think it was Toews who was supposed to have Copp). The pairs were about as good as you can make with the pieces available: Keith - Murphy de Haan - Gustafsson Maatta - Seabrook The D didn't lose the game. The Hawks should have scored more than two against the smelly, disorganised mess they played against. Hawks forwards outside of Saad sucked. The most shocking thing to me is how they played against the big bad Jets, and OUTHIT them by a fair margin! Q hockey is dead.You mean like the Hawks 'effort' the last 40 and 47 seconds? Hawks are looking mighty horseshitty.
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 13, 2019 15:35:02 GMT
Maybe there is a voodoo hex in the coach's office that leads to line roulette. Why not leave Cat with Strome and Shaw and let 19-88 figure it out. They were not factors on offense, and that turned out to be the game.
JC did keep the 3rd line together and I thought Saad and Kampf played pretty well. Kubalik wasn't much of a factor last night.
Agreed those are the d-lines you have to live with given the players. Perlini was also pretty invisible. We may wind up with Dach moving up to play with 19-88 and Caggiula moving back to the 4th line. Caggiula also was visible and a factor - 19-88 were off, unfortunately.
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Post by lari on Oct 13, 2019 15:39:37 GMT
I like Caggiula. He hits and tries hard. But he's not creating chances. Keeps it simple only. It's up to the other guys on the line to provide the big plays. And they weren't.
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Post by garyu on Oct 13, 2019 15:41:59 GMT
Maybe there is a voodoo hex in the coach's office that leads to line roulette. Why not leave Cat with Strome and Shaw and let 19-88 figure it out. They were not factors on offense, and that turned out to be the game. JC did keep the 3rd line together and I thought Saad and Kampf played pretty well. Kubalik wasn't much of a factor last night. Agreed those are the d-lines you have to live with given the players. Perlini was also pretty invisible. We may wind up with Dach moving up to play with 19-88 and Caggiula moving back to the 4th line. Caggiula also was visible and a factor - 19-88 were off, unfortunately. Again, Jonny a step slow. And yah, that tying goal.....WTF!?
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