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Post by Merpes on Dec 27, 2019 4:44:27 GMT
After this year, Seab's salaries are 5, 6, 5, and 4.5 million. This year was 7.5 million. I think last season was near 10 million.
It becomes more interesting with 19 since after this year at 9.8 million, his salary is 7, 6.9, and 6.9 for the last 3 years (identical numbers for Kane as well).
Maybe Toews will finally get his shoulder fixed so he can raise his arm above his head next year?
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Dec 27, 2019 5:05:19 GMT
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Post by brendan on Dec 27, 2019 5:05:19 GMT
was their plan to never fix his hips? but now its all just too much???
what could be wrong in 3 places he was playing through... n seemingly wanted to keep ppaying through?
im sure the no nonsense media of Chicago will get to bottom of it...
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Post by garyu on Dec 27, 2019 11:58:02 GMT
Are none of you ignorant, athletic, Western Canada boys??? #7 was gonna try to play his way thru his physical issues. Pretty sure he would never pull himself out of the lineup. He had to openly suck to get caught.
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Dec 27, 2019 13:41:45 GMT
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Post by khawk20 on Dec 27, 2019 13:41:45 GMT
He's openly sucked for at least 2 years now!
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Post by garyu on Dec 27, 2019 15:18:32 GMT
He's openly sucked for at least 2 years now! But he didn't tell anyone he knew...
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 27, 2019 15:46:15 GMT
Whose call is it for Seabrook to address the obvious major issues he was playing with? The player or the organization? I'm sure Sidney Crosby didn't much like sitting out with concussion issues. He did and came back at the same level.
So reading the tea leaves a bit, after the playoff loss to the Blues, Seabrook could barely board the plane. So it was better to have him play at 50% than to lose one year with the potential to come back sooner?
I'm not hung up on the shoulder injury - that could have happened regardless. Just guessing the hip is the bigger issue with #7, especially looking at the changes in his game in the last three years.
Every player has a physical every year. Of course the player wants to play. Outstanding player management there. Sure Seabrook is partially to blame as well - but he doesn't hold the trump card - Stan and the brass held it in their pocket. Instead of losing one year, now Seabrook essentially loses five.
And yep, everything will be blamed on the injuries. So let's get more Nylanders - woohoo!
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Post by Giovi on Dec 27, 2019 17:58:05 GMT
I know the universal approach here is to see everything as a conspiracy. But this guy, apart from being a warrior and a Hawk legend, is, as Elliott Friedman said, a tough guy.
According to Powers and most who know him, hes been playing with a lot of nagging injuries, and for a long time. That is in his makeup. If you can play, you play.
So getting to the point where his game dictated he was a healthy scratch, and it looked like that was going to happen frequently, he decided to have some things looked at.
Nobody can ignore the fact this may work out in the Hawks favor, with LTIR being a long term possibility. But anyone who thinks this guy just laid down for the count hasnt read or heard much about who he is. Hes a throwback, a tough guy. Hes never looked for a free ride.
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 27, 2019 18:31:59 GMT
I know the universal approach here is to see everything as a conspiracy. But this guy, apart from being a warrior and a Hawk legend, is, as Elliott Friedman said, a tough guy. According to Powers and most who know him, hes been playing with a lot of nagging injuries, and for a long time. That is in his makeup. If you can play, you play. So getting to the point where his game dictated he was a healthy scratch, and it looked like that was going to happen frequently, he decided to have some things looked at. Nobody can ignore the fact this may work out in the Hawks favor, with LTIR being a long term possibility. But anyone who thinks this guy just laid down for the count hasnt read or heard much about who he is. Hes a throwback, a tough guy. Hes never looked for a free ride Agreed that Seabrook's make-up had a lot to do with where he is and why. No doubt. He still deserved better from the Blackhawks IMO, and at a minimum the medical staff. They had to know it was a problem that continued to worsen. Where was that voice in the room? You see players like #7 battle through injury situations and see an undersized guy like Shaw regularly take a beating because nobody else will, and then you see a guy with some talent like Nylander do his utmost to coast his way through the NHL. Hopefully we (and Stan) are not all lathered up with cap space that the team doesn't wind up with a bunch more Nylanders.
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Post by garyu on Dec 27, 2019 18:45:33 GMT
I know the universal approach here is to see everything as a conspiracy. But this guy, apart from being a warrior and a Hawk legend, is, as Elliott Friedman said, a tough guy. According to Powers and most who know him, hes been playing with a lot of nagging injuries, and for a long time. That is in his makeup. If you can play, you play. So getting to the point where his game dictated he was a healthy scratch, and it looked like that was going to happen frequently, he decided to have some things looked at. Nobody can ignore the fact this may work out in the Hawks favor, with LTIR being a long term possibility. But anyone who thinks this guy just laid down for the count hasnt read or heard much about who he is. Hes a throwback, a tough guy. Hes never looked for a free ride. Wordy'er than my post, but this, Exactly.
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Dec 27, 2019 19:26:39 GMT
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Post by jimc on Dec 27, 2019 19:26:39 GMT
I have no doubt he is beat up and legitimately injured...but this 2 year timeline they have concocted is truly rubbish.
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Dec 27, 2019 19:39:21 GMT
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Post by Merpes on Dec 27, 2019 19:39:21 GMT
I don’t think it’s a two year timeline. He’s getting surgery now and in 2020 which is 5 days away. He’ll have shoulder surgery now Probably and rehab for a few months then get the hips done probably early spring with the goal to be ready for training camp.
No one knows what is wrong that requires surgery, but Seabs could still play so they can’t be that serious. More maintenance things most likely. What I see is the Hawks’ FO raising the white flag on the season with these decisions.
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Dec 27, 2019 19:53:14 GMT
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Post by Merpes on Dec 27, 2019 19:53:14 GMT
Didn’t Bogosian request a trade out of Buffalo? Seems like an obvious move for the Hawks. Buffalo is bubble team and could use the extra cap for an additional move. Bogo is a UFA and is here to just eat minutes so you’re not forcing Boqvist if he needs more time in the A.
Send 4K Magic back to Buffalo so they can bury him and grab a mid round pick for the trouble.
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Dec 28, 2019 2:56:09 GMT
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Post by jimc on Dec 28, 2019 2:56:09 GMT
Um...when was the last time he could still play?
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Post by Giovi on Dec 28, 2019 4:24:41 GMT
I have no doubt he is beat up and legitimately injured...but this 2 year timeline they have concocted is truly rubbish. I never saw anything about a 2 year timeline. Colliton said today he is expecting that Seabs will be at training camp. Hes getting the hips done in January and February. If he was 30, that might be a realistic timeline. He'll be 36 by training camp, with a ton of miles on him. I'ts not unrealistic to expect that he could take as much as a year to get healthy. Its really not unrealistic to expect that this could be the end of the line.
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Dec 28, 2019 4:42:48 GMT
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Post by brendan on Dec 28, 2019 4:42:48 GMT
they gave him a nice chat up in the 3rd period. I'm not sure if its honest love or the hawks touting the line...
I love seabrook..I hope he comes back and is 110%.
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