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Post by stbhawks19 on Jan 8, 2021 14:41:21 GMT
So that rally Trump held was for BLM/“Antifa”? Trump is the leader of Antifa? LOL
I do wonder why security was so low, and I’m sure we’ll find out Trump had nothing to do with purposely delaying the national guard getting sent in so his goons could have a solid shot at taking out lawmakers who were about to certify the Biden win.
You can’t possibly believe that security detail being that minimal had nothing to do with Trumps sinister plans for the day. He announced this moronic “stop the steal” rally last week. Anyone with half a brain could’ve foreseen this being an absolute disaster.
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Post by jimc on Jan 8, 2021 15:01:50 GMT
Well it’s also becoming quite clear that ANTIFA and BLM were responsible for the break in. Many have been identified as members of those groups. I particular like the guy with the hammer and sickle tattoo on his hand. Definitely a Trump supporter. The Minotaur guy has been seen at several BLM and climate change rallies. Again, clearly the average Trump supporter. The best part of course is that you had an uncontrolled breach of the Capitol and it only took 2 hours to do a full on security sweep of the area where all members of Congress and the VP were meeting? How easy would it have been for some foreign agents to plant bugs or biological agents in the building. The local DMV gets a bomb threat and it’s closed for an entire day. It was also convenient that everything was signed off in the middle of the night. Last but not least there were threats of airplanes being flown into the Capitol. For some reason, security detail was at a minimum. You add it up and it’s not hard to see that voting does not matter. This is all bullshit...seriously..where do you come up with this garbage? Parler? OAN? The idiot in the goat horns and animal skins is a well known Qanon figure...the 'shaman'. Maybe do just a basic amount of research, instead of pushing these idiotic lies. BLM? Oh...of course...when there wasn't a single person of colour at the moron rally??? What exactly was 'signed off on' in terms middle-of-the-road night? Jesus fuck...the entire process was covered on live TV. Also...you do know the entire building is covered in closed circuit cameras... Fuck...this is just abject stupidity.
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Post by lari on Jan 8, 2021 15:05:04 GMT
Jon Schaffer is a conspiracy theorist. His website links to Alex Jones. You can't use reason to explain the known world to someone like that. Facts bend around what fits their world view. Trump's got people like that wrapped around their little finger. They believe there was election fraud despite all evidence and courts and election officials proving otherwise. Trump keeps parroting lies. And that's enough.
But that's just the way it is. It's like telling God isn't real. People don't consider facts, they take politics and religion as a matter of faith. Instead of accepting facts, they find something wrong with the other party. And it's easy to find fault in politicians, because they all suck. But that's beside the point. Just because somebody else isn't squeaky clean, it doesn't mean you have to accept blatant lies as "the better truth".
Problems of the bi-party system obviously. If people had more options than just those two, there'd be more pressure to stick to facts.
I believe USA should get rid of the electorate vote, and go for direct democracy. That gives more space for third and fourth party candidates.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 8, 2021 15:50:16 GMT
I think Merpes is just trolling for replies. The more y’all respond the wilder the claims get. I’m loling, although I acknowledge there is a very sad segment of society that believes these exact things.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 8, 2021 15:52:03 GMT
...and the better troll would have been about the hawks having a chance to legitimately make a cup run this year
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Post by jrsamu on Jan 8, 2021 16:49:02 GMT
I hope all involved in the break-in to the capital (Alex Jones, Proud Boys, ANTIFA, Prouder Girls, PROFA, SPECTRE, The Syndicate, Grannies with Glocks, Fascist Hipsters, whoever) are in maximum security prison for a long, long time. And it would be helpful to do a census so we know from whence they came. That is plenty.
And then work together (god forbid) to find the correct balance between secure voting and not preventing selective groups from voting. And don't turn over the process to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc.
Getting rid of Stan is much, much more difficult.
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Post by garyu on Jan 8, 2021 17:19:36 GMT
...and the better troll would have been about the hawks having a chance to legitimately make a cup run this year Good one.
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Post by Giovi on Jan 8, 2021 19:30:21 GMT
Known white nationalist and Trump supporter (and not Antifa) arrested for his part in siege.
So, Merpes, did this guy get lost on his way to the grocery store and accidentally end up with all the Antifa disguised as ReTrumplicans?
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Post by Giovi on Jan 8, 2021 19:41:03 GMT
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Post by garyu on Jan 8, 2021 19:55:26 GMT
Everybody needs to let this go. Don't make come up there!!!
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Post by Merpes on Jan 8, 2021 21:23:40 GMT
So that rally Trump held was for BLM/“Antifa”? Trump is the leader of Antifa? LOL I do wonder why security was so low, and I’m sure we’ll find out Trump had nothing to do with purposely delaying the national guard getting sent in so his goons could have a solid shot at taking out lawmakers who were about to certify the Biden win. You can’t possibly believe that security detail being that minimal had nothing to do with Trumps sinister plans for the day. He announced this moronic “stop the steal” rally last week. Anyone with half a brain could’ve foreseen this being an absolute disaster. Security at Capitol Hill has nothing to do with Trump. The Police Chief did resign for the incident. Incident was over in a couple hours deploying the national guard takes time and logistics. It’s not like they are stationed nearby.
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Post by Merpes on Jan 8, 2021 21:24:31 GMT
Counted as a COVID death I’m sure.
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Post by Merpes on Jan 8, 2021 21:25:38 GMT
Known white nationalist and Trump supporter (and not Antifa) arrested for his part in siege. So, Merpes, did this guy get lost on his way to the grocery store and accidentally end up with all the Antifa disguised as ReTrumplicans? Are they going to arrest the Shaman guy?
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Post by Merpes on Jan 8, 2021 21:26:14 GMT
...and the better troll would have been about the hawks having a chance to legitimately make a cup run this year Good one. Way too hard to pull that off.
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Post by Merpes on Jan 8, 2021 21:30:25 GMT
Jon Schaffer is a conspiracy theorist. His website links to Alex Jones. You can't use reason to explain the known world to someone like that. Facts bend around what fits their world view. Trump's got people like that wrapped around their little finger. They believe there was election fraud despite all evidence and courts and election officials proving otherwise. Trump keeps parroting lies. And that's enough. But that's just the way it is. It's like telling God isn't real. People don't consider facts, they take politics and religion as a matter of faith. Instead of accepting facts, they find something wrong with the other party. And it's easy to find fault in politicians, because they all suck. But that's beside the point. Just because somebody else isn't squeaky clean, it doesn't mean you have to accept blatant lies as "the better truth". Problems of the bi-party system obviously. If people had more options than just those two, there'd be more pressure to stick to facts. I believe USA should get rid of the electorate vote, and go for direct democracy. That gives more space for third and fourth party candidates. Not a good idea given the difference in population in many States. California would essentially dictate everything and there would be shit all over the sidewalks in every city. Better plan is for the country to split up. The experiment is over and the division, hatred, and wealth inequality hasn’t even gotten that bad.
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