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Post by garyu on Oct 12, 2020 18:19:59 GMT
On balance, I don't think the ownership (at least since Rocky has been running the show) has been "cheap" by any stretch of the imagination since 2009. The way the money was spent is the issue. And the cap has not progressed anything like was expected when they handed out the $10.5 million to Toews and Kane to start with. A GM with balls coulda gotten them for $9.5millonz.
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Post by Merpes on Oct 12, 2020 21:04:42 GMT
Avs get Toews! Devon from the Islanders. 2, 2nd round picks. Wtf, Stan. That’s what you should have gotten for Saad.
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Post by jimc on Oct 12, 2020 22:55:43 GMT
Habs sign toffoli for the Bickell contract.
Good deal
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Post by lari on Oct 13, 2020 5:53:04 GMT
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Post by Merpes on Oct 13, 2020 10:15:26 GMT
Does Colliton’s “system” even allow for that?
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Post by jimc on Oct 13, 2020 12:25:14 GMT
Does Colliton’s “system” even allow for that? A ha ha 'System' Good one
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 13, 2020 12:50:37 GMT
Picking up these two bottom six Swedish forwards pretty much confirms what the organization thinks of the kids it has in Rockford and the system that could have filled those spots at less cost. Somebody said it - those are guys who can supplement a roster in a playoff run. Perhaps that is where Stan secures his additional draft picks. Players now, picks in the spring.
Given that they still have Kampf and Carpenter who are also no offensive threat at all, I wonder if the system (word used loosely) of the future is the New Jersey trap.
Pretty excited to watch a full season of Nylander in the top 6. This could be a long season, which I guess secretly is the objective. High draft pick.
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Post by jimc on Oct 13, 2020 13:28:25 GMT
It's going to be hilarious watching the hawks try and play a trapping or clampdown D, when they were the worst defensive team in the conference over the last few seasons.
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Post by garyu on Oct 13, 2020 15:17:53 GMT
Picking up these two bottom six Swedish forwards pretty much confirms what the organization thinks of the kids it has in Rockford and the system that could have filled those spots at less cost. Somebody said it - those are guys who can supplement a roster in a playoff run. Perhaps that is where Stan secures his additional draft picks. Players now, picks in the spring. Given that they still have Kampf and Carpenter who are also no offensive threat at all, I wonder if the system (word used loosely) of the future is the New Jersey trap. Pretty excited to watch a full season of Nylander in the top 6. This could be a long season, which I guess secretly is the objective. High draft pick. Also, Good one.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 13, 2020 15:33:38 GMT
So as it stands what does our roster look like for the next season?
Lari you're good with this shit and cap hits and all that, make with the capfriendly!
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Post by lari on Oct 13, 2020 16:08:30 GMT
22-man roster with only Strome left to sign to be the 23rd man. Zack Smith on LTIR, but who knows if he or Shaw/Seabrook will play. 7.7m in cap space. Enough to still make a move. Unless Smith is cleared to play.
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 13, 2020 16:12:05 GMT
Watching Strome last season reminded me more and more of Anisimov, and if he isn't centering Kane and Debrincat (and he probably won't be), where exactly does he fit in? He looked lost and totally ineffective as a winger (and slower on his skates somehow). I'm not sure I would do anything more than the minimum re-up.
Given the cap situation, unless they take back a worse contract, I don't see the Hawks able to move deHaan this season with two years left to go. So he is here beyond 2021. You could argue the same for Murphy - how many contenders are going to have tons of cap space? Seabrook isn't going anywhere. All the contenders are so close to the Cap that it will be difficult for anyone to take back a big contract, correct?
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Post by jrsamu on Oct 13, 2020 16:13:09 GMT
Is there any conversation that Zach Smith was nursing a significant injury for some time? Or has he just worn out from his playing style?
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 13, 2020 17:03:31 GMT
22-man roster with only Strome left to sign to be the 23rd man. Zack Smith on LTIR, but who knows if he or Shaw/Seabrook will play. 7.7m in cap space. Enough to still make a move. Unless Smith is cleared to play. Strange I can see the flow chart on my phone but not on my pc.
Seeing Nylander in the top 6 makes me think Colliton/Stan/everyone should give Jannmark every chance to play there, and Nylander should be moved for a bag of pucks or a #9 defenseman or something. Not that Jannmark should be playing top 6, but Nylander is so floaty, it hurts to think about it.
I'd also like to see a kid get promoted in Seabrook's spot, but I think he will get a long look to see what level of ineptitude he might still be at.
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Post by tedbulley on Oct 13, 2020 17:08:15 GMT
Ian Michell will be on the Hawks roster this season.
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