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Post by lari on Jan 14, 2018 21:11:05 GMT
Forget secondary scoring. Look at their top six - there's hardly any top talent left there anymore. Only Kane can be said to perform at his level or near it, and he was always overrated when it came to his overall impact anyway. He scores, but probably causes equally many goals scored against him 5-on-5. You seem upset. They ruined my Sunday.
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Post by brendan on Jan 15, 2018 19:43:08 GMT
I think kanes been awesome last few seasons and been plenty good at both not brazenly turning pucks over and back checking.hes been hawks no.
Toews has looked better last 10 games offensively but overall top 6 has been meh
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2018 20:24:41 GMT
Kane is -3. That shows he is not getting the job done 5-on-5. And that's the second line, so a lot of times they avoid the tougher matchups, especially at home. He should be a plus player for the Hawks to stand a chance. He is the only minus player in the top 6. I'm not undermining his importance in generating scoring chances, because nobody else seems to do it with any sort of consistency, but his impact is overrated. A lot of goals scored against him. A more defensive-minded player in his position would prevent a lot of those chances against ever developing.
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Post by Merpes on Jan 15, 2018 20:25:58 GMT
Kane is -3. That shows he is not getting the job done 5-on-5. And that's the second line, so a lot of times they avoid the tougher matchups, especially at home. He should be a plus player for the Hawks to stand a chance. He is the only minus player in the top 6. I'm not undermining his importance in generating scoring chances, because nobody else seems to do it with any sort of consistency, but his impact is overrated. A lot of goals scored against him. A more defensive-minded player in his position would prevent a lot of those chances against ever developing. Frolik lover!
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2018 20:41:58 GMT
Kane is -3. That shows he is not getting the job done 5-on-5. And that's the second line, so a lot of times they avoid the tougher matchups, especially at home. He should be a plus player for the Hawks to stand a chance. He is the only minus player in the top 6. I'm not undermining his importance in generating scoring chances, because nobody else seems to do it with any sort of consistency, but his impact is overrated. A lot of goals scored against him. A more defensive-minded player in his position would prevent a lot of those chances against ever developing. Frolik lover! Unibrow-phobe!
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Post by garyu on Jan 15, 2018 21:14:34 GMT
Frolik (Jagr Jr) would be Top 6 here this year.
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2018 21:22:58 GMT
Frolik (Jagr Jr) would be Top 6 here this year. 2nd line center, no doubt.
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 16, 2018 21:21:48 GMT
There will be 5 teams from the Central making the playoffs. This might be a season where you see a Central team have more points than the 3rd place Pacific team, and miss the playoffs.
Hawks really, really need to start taking points against the Central. A couple more losses to Central teams, and they are going to eliminate themselves.
They are currently 5-7-2 against the Central. With, I believe, 15 games remaining against them.
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Post by garyu on Jan 16, 2018 21:53:43 GMT
There will be 5 teams from the Central making the playoffs. This might be a season where you see a Central team have more points than the 3rd place Pacific team, and miss the playoffs. Hawks really, really need to start taking points against the Central. A couple more losses to Central teams, and they are going to eliminate themselves. They are currently 5-7-2 against the Central. With, I believe, 15 games remaining against them. So, then, NO?
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Post by jimc on Jan 17, 2018 3:04:05 GMT
Hawks home and division records are their undoing thus far.
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Post by garyu on Jan 17, 2018 14:45:34 GMT
Hawks home and division records are their undoing thus far. I thought it had to do with playing like shit??
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Post by jimc on Jan 17, 2018 15:27:35 GMT
funny how one affects the other
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Post by chitownjeff on Jan 18, 2018 4:05:22 GMT
With Corky knocked dizzy, I have my doubts. The SS Blackhawks is listing and Admiral Q is about to announce "abandon ship"
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Post by dbc on Jan 18, 2018 14:48:07 GMT
If/ when the Hawks miss the playoffs, does Q get fired on the spot so Stan can puff his chest? Waiting until off season would Smooth over the fan base, but a season end shakeup could be good to see what Colliton has.
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Post by jimc on Jan 18, 2018 14:53:22 GMT
What has Colliton done to prove his worth as an NHL bench boss?
Hard PASS
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