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Post by jimc on Jan 10, 2018 14:02:18 GMT
Julien is a good coach. Backing Therrien as long as he did was just awful...Weber for Subban was a good trade.
Drouin for Sergachev was a good trade
Radulov wanted 7 mil per for 7 years...bye...probably the only contract decidion hes made I agree with.
He also ripped off stan pretty well for Danault.
But he, like stan, has been an incredible disapointment.
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Post by garyu on Jan 10, 2018 14:21:24 GMT
Well, we can start with Montreal on the list of those 30 teams then. If you think Bergevin is a better GM than Bowman, well, you truly are a moron... Shaw trade and contract is awful. Trading Subban for Weber is turning out to be a disaster. Martinsen, King, Ott trades? Brutal. Price contract is ridiculous. Sergachev for Drouin? LOL Letting Radulov walk.... Ales Hemsky... Hiring Julien... Alzner contract.... You have to look really, really hard to find the last move he made that WASN'T a bad move. Bergy paid big-time attention to Stanley before he got the gig in Montreal. |
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Post by jimc on Jan 10, 2018 14:56:13 GMT
Sadly....
Both guys grestest contributions to their organizations will be when they leave!
MB's real clincher this year was sitting on about $8 mil in cap space...after letting Radulov and Markov walk, he had to find a way to replace those assets....
I really dont understand how a GM can expect to be a playoff contender while retaining that kind of cash. S M H...
Oh ya...Ales Hemsky...that one speaks for itself....
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Post by jimc on Jan 10, 2018 15:00:43 GMT
As for having to look really hard to find the last move that didnt suck, that pretty much sums up stain bowmsn!
EL OH EL
MB's last good move was probably fleecing stun out of Danault!
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 10, 2018 22:43:29 GMT
Yeah, Julien is a great coach.... I guess that's why Boston has done nothing but improve since firing him. And Montreal has sucked, and are at the bottom of the NHL in offense AND defense. With Carey Price in net.
Weber is a good fit for the old NHL. Subban for the new NHL. I thought it was a good trade if Montreal was in "win now" mode, but that's obviously not the case. So no, it really wasn't a good trade. Weber will be WAY past his prime by the time Montreal is ready to even make the playoffs again.
Sergachev may turn out to be a franchise defenseman. Drouin is a skilled winger who they are now trying to make....a center?? Good trade? You're insane.
You can't let your best offensive player walk without having SOME kind of replacement plan in place. So yeah, letting Radulov go was horrible.
Danault is it. Good job landing a 3rd line center, I guess.
Keith, Murphy, Forsling, Rutta, Oesterle, Kempny, Seabrook vs. Weber, Petry, Benn, Morrow, Alzner, Mete, Schlemko, Jerabek? It's no wonder Montreal's defense is so atrocious. I'm not sure how you can rail on the Hawks' defense constantly, when that's who Montreal is trotting out every night... Holy fuck. At least the Hawks have the excuse of younger players, as opposed to awful players, who are also on the wrong side of 30.
This is fun. How about another GM?
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Post by Giovi on Jan 10, 2018 23:35:00 GMT
None of that had anything to do with stan they won 3 cups with 3 different supporting casts. trying to say the core did it all makes you look like a fool. especially given that youve shit on the entire core endlessly through the years. |
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Post by jimc on Jan 11, 2018 0:17:06 GMT
The core won all 3 cups...dont be so silly
You can have a capable supporting cast, or absolute shit...please stop pretending
Blowman has made the hawks shittier and less cap-capable every year.
Hes a fucking stroke
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Post by jimc on Jan 11, 2018 0:27:42 GMT
Yeah, Julien is a great coach.... I guess that's why Boston has done nothing but improve since firing him. And Montreal has sucked, and are at the bottom of the NHL in offense AND defense. With Carey Price in net. Weber is a good fit for the old NHL. Subban for the new NHL. I thought it was a good trade if Montreal was in "win now" mode, but that's obviously not the case. So no, it really wasn't a good trade. Weber will be WAY past his prime by the time Montreal is ready to even make the playoffs again. Sergachev may turn out to be a franchise defenseman. Drouin is a skilled winger who they are now trying to make....a center?? Good trade? You're insane. You can't let your best offensive player walk without having SOME kind of replacement plan in place. So yeah, letting Radulov go was horrible. Danault is it. Good job landing a 3rd line center, I guess. Keith, Murphy, Forsling, Rutta, Oesterle, Kempny, Seabrook vs. Weber, Petry, Benn, Morrow, Alzner, Mete, Schlemko, Jerabek? It's no wonder Montreal's defense is so atrocious. I'm not sure how you can rail on the Hawks' defense constantly, when that's who Montreal is trotting out every night... Holy fuck. At least the Hawks have the excuse of younger players, as opposed to awful players, who are also on the wrong side of 30. This is fun. How about another GM? The same julien who won a cup and went to another Final? And is widely considered top-5 in the league??? LMFAO. Youre zn idiot. Its easy to rail on the Hawks D...they are fucking horrid...what any other team has is irrelevent...the hawks d is barely passable...they have one guy good enough to play in the top 4. Weber is a stud...period..hes a top guy on any team...and he costs a mil less per year under the cap than PKS...and isnt a me-first dbag in the room. Hed certainly be the best guy in chicago...and could actually run the pp. Ya...cant play in the new NHL...youre adorable!!! Price has sucked this year because he hurt himself in the off season...rideo riding...hes an idiot. Drouin is a stud top 3 F...he will be fine...its idiotic making him a C...especially with 8 mil in cap space collecting dust. Sergachev has serious potential. If you think paying a selfish cunt like Radulov 7 mil for 7 years, then i question your intelligence |
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 11, 2018 1:17:51 GMT
Q won 3 cups. He's basically Julien but better. And you hate Q. The NHL has passed both of them by. Which is why Montreal is a fucking dumpster fire. The Hawks are in a better position because they are infinitely more talented than the Habs. And younger.
Drouin is a first liner? Awesome... I would certainly hope so, especially on the Habs. His best season is 53 points...
Sergachev right now has more points than anyone on Montreal, just as an FYI. He's also anchoring their second pairing...and is now playing 20+ minutes a night. As a 19 year old? That trade is a fucking abortion, and will be even worse in a couple years.
The Hawks D is light years ahead of Montreal's....and not stuck in the previous era.. If you haven't been paying attention the last few seasons, the game is shifting once again. Systems are changing, especially on the offensive side of the puck. It's all about a 5 man offense, with forwards and defensemen interchangeable in transition, on the rush, and in the cycle... As a result, teams are moving towards defensemen that can skate, move the puck, and get involved in the offense...
The Hawks are building for the future(13 players under age 25...) The Hawks have some really, really good young players.
I have no fucking idea what Montreal is building for. The draft lottery?
Your arguments don't add up. -2 + -2 does not equal 6. If every aspect of the Hawks was as bad as you say, they would be a fucking lottery team, like your beloved Habs.
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Post by jimc on Jan 11, 2018 1:29:07 GMT
The hawks are last place in their division and stuck with a bunch of horrible contracts on badly diminishing assets...their collection of kids, especially on D, are fucking horrible.. you have very seriously deluded yourself. The hawks arent rebuilding...they are desperately holding on to a bygone era.
Yes yes...the whole nhl has changed xnd SAH dmen have no place in it...LMFAO.. tell that shit to someone who doesnt know better. Smalll soft and shitty puck moving dmen still suck in your new era. Just spare me. The hawks have nothing coming for the future.
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 11, 2018 1:49:47 GMT
You pay attention to standings about as much as you watch hockey, I see.
Your track record when it comes to judging the Hawks and their players speaks for itself. I'm done. You're right. Everything the Hawks have sucks. Their players all suck. They have no good young players, at all. Corey Crawford is a fucking sieve.
Montreal is awesome sauce and will win the cup. But not this year, because you have to make the playoffs first. Once Carey Price isn't injured anymore(good luck), Stanley Cup here we come!
Enjoy Drouin and his 60 points a season(if he's lucky). Definitely worth giving up a potential #1 defenseman.
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Post by jimc on Jan 11, 2018 2:01:55 GMT
The hawks being garbage has nothing to do with Mtl or any other team...its just a fact independent of all others...sorry you are so emotionally invested that it hurts your little feelings...its really cute how you have this teenage girlish crush...fanboi!
Yes...my track record pointing out bowman's epic failures does speak for itself...but keep waving those arms when you dance!
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 11, 2018 2:22:17 GMT
The Hawks aren't garbage(again, most of the garbage teams are north of the border). It has plenty to do with the other teams in the NHL. Because that's how you measure a team's and a GM's performance. By everyone they are competing against. And right now, the Hawks are right in the middle of the pack, with one of the youngest rosters in the NHL, and their starting goalie on IR.
I'm not emotionally invested at all at this point. When the Hawks suck and don't show up to play, I just turn the game off and do something else. It really doesn't matter to me if they suck, because they've won 3 cups in my lifetime. I'm perfectly happy if they never win another one again, because most people don't get to see ONE cup in their lifetime. Let alone 3.
Your track record is as someone that shits on everything Blackhawks. Until they lift the Stanley Cup. Then you're reasonable for a month or so, because you have no choice, and then right back to the same old shtick. Gutless faggots, garbage team, will never win a thing... You are quite literally one of the most negative individuals I've ever come across. Objectivity is not a trait you possess.
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Post by lari on Jan 11, 2018 2:27:59 GMT
The fuck happened to this thread?
I thought it was about celebrating the suckiness of the Oilers. I somehow find it very entertaining.
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Post by jimc on Jan 11, 2018 3:16:30 GMT
The Hawks aren't garbage(again, most of the garbage teams are north of the border). It has plenty to do with the other teams in the NHL. Because that's how you measure a team's and a GM's performance. By everyone they are competing against. And right now, the Hawks are right in the middle of the pack, with one of the youngest rosters in the NHL, and their starting goalie on IR. I'm not emotionally invested at all at this point. When the Hawks suck and don't show up to play, I just turn the game off and do something else. It really doesn't matter to me if they suck, because they've won 3 cups in my lifetime. I'm perfectly happy if they never win another one again, because most people don't get to see ONE cup in their lifetime. Let alone 3. Your track record is as someone that shits on everything Blackhawks. Until they lift the Stanley Cup. Then you're reasonable for a month or so, because you have no choice, and then right back to the same old shtick. Gutless faggots, garbage team, will never win a thing... You are quite literally one of the most negative individuals I've ever come across. Objectivity is not a trait you possess. You are claiming to be objective? Lol. Tell us another story about your awesome beer league hockey career! |
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