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Post by brendan on Oct 24, 2017 18:59:59 GMT
The results of the backups who posted good numbers for the Hawks and have faltered elsewhere is indicative of how good the Hawks are more so than how much they need Crawford.
I like Crawford, but I think if you kept darling, or really of any of the other guys who wondered through and spend the 3-4 million elsewhere the team would be/been better off.
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Post by jimc on Oct 24, 2017 19:14:14 GMT
Niemi is sitting with 3 rings if he sticks around...possibly 4
Q was going to turn to Emery tp start the playoffs in 2013 if he wasnt injured....both years Crow was part of cup wins, he got sat out for tertible play in the first round....hawks never win without his backups bailing him out.
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 24, 2017 20:26:48 GMT
No way does Niemi have 3 or 4 rings if he stays here. Just no way.
And Crawford was always going to be the #1 in the playoffs in 2013. There was no controversy that year.
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Post by jimc on Oct 24, 2017 21:10:23 GMT
Q was considering starting Emery in game one until he got hurt.
Niemi or a shooter tutor could have won in 2013...
Crow is simply nothing special.
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 24, 2017 21:16:21 GMT
I don't recall those articles from 2013.
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Post by brendan on Oct 25, 2017 0:08:24 GMT
Emery lost 1 game? in 13 and iirc there wss talk of emery in the playoffs but he was..
darling played in the 15 playoffs. I'm not bagging crow. Just saying he's not some 6 morelli's messiah.
You guys don't think a lesser guy and keeping Saad time in 16 or maybe someone else stays or comes in makes the Hawks a better, even slightly better squad ?
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 25, 2017 0:36:12 GMT
Nobody here is calling him "some 6 morelli's messiah."
But he is one of the better goalies in today's NHL. And has been the last several years. You guys will be surprised to find out every goalie in the league goes through ups & downs.
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Post by Pez68 on Oct 25, 2017 2:00:13 GMT
Niemi is sitting with 3 rings if he sticks around...possibly 4 Q was going to turn to Emery tp start the playoffs in 2013 if he wasnt injured....both years Crow was part of cup wins, he got sat out for tertible play in the first round....hawks never win without his backups bailing him out. Niemi is fucking awful, and was absolutely nothing special in 2010. Actually, I would say the Hawks won in spite of him... 3 or 4 cups... lmao. So the Hawks have been poor defensively for the last few seasons, and Crow has still put up above average numbers? And the conclusion is that he is an average goalie? Tied for 1st in save percentage during the "last 3 seasons" and has the most saves of those 4 goalies.
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 2:40:34 GMT
Um....last year his numbers sucked...snd were nothing special in 2016
And going back 3 years is counting the last cup year.
Yes...hawks won in 2010 with an average goalie...just like 2013 and 2015.
Crow looking rather lol tonight
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Post by Pez68 on Oct 25, 2017 3:06:59 GMT
I didn't include the last cup season, actually. That's why I put the "last 3 seasons". That was your qualifier, not mine. I included this season as the third season because I knew you would want to exclude 2015.
Again, since 2015-2016...tied for 1st in save percentage, with the most saves of those 4...
So yeah, maybe the Hawks have been poor defensively the last 2 seasons and the beginning of this season. But Crawford has been anything but average during that time.
In the playoffs since 2012-2013, Crow has a .920 save percentage and a 2.27 GAA. Better numbers than your boy Price, btw.
We must have a different definition of suck. His save percentage last season was good for 11th. GAA 16th. He was amazing before his injury last season, and struggled after... Which is why his number were average.
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 3:56:30 GMT
Amazing...lol
And using numbers from this season that isnt even 10 games old? Really?
Anything to make him look better than he is.
Maybe wait until he regresses to 2.60 and .918
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 3:57:22 GMT
He was outplayed by Scott Darling last year...lol
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 25, 2017 4:07:48 GMT
Crawford is the only player worth a damn this season.
And Saad.
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 4:22:56 GMT
Both garbage tonight
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Post by brendan on Oct 25, 2017 16:25:21 GMT
Crows good probably top 10 (admittedly not watching much of league) no one thinks
Darling or someone similar + maybe Panarin+Saad is better than just crow?
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