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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 4:03:30 GMT
The Sharks and the Blackhawks won the lottery. So does that mean the Hawks can't win the lottery for the next three years? Including the 2026 McKenna lottery? It says the same team can't win more than twice inside 5 years.
Or is staying put at second not considered winning?
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 4:52:01 GMT
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Post by garyu on May 8, 2024 6:42:21 GMT
Wait a minute!? Someone in the next 5 could play too?? Lucky!!
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 7:43:49 GMT
Ferrari's 2024 NHL Draft Rankings: Top 64 Before the World U-18sA few picks (#2 to #6): 2. Ivan Demidov (RUS), RW, SKA-1946 St. Petersburg Jr. (Rus.), 5-foot-11, 181 pounds ...elite creativity, a high degree of taking chances and a habit of making highlight-reel plays... Demidov may have the highest offensive upside of any player in the NHL draft class.3. Berkly Catton (CAN), C, Spokane (WHL), 5-foot-10, 170 pounds ...his calling card is his playmaking and ability to chain positive plays together. Catton is a field general on the ice4. Cayden Lindstrom (CAN), C, Medicine Hat (WHL), 6-foot-3, 210 pounds ...skates like the wind, plays a physical brand of hockey, has a heavy shot and has developed a nice playmaking touch... He is a lot to handle for opposing defenders5. Zeev Buium (USA), LHD, University of Denver (NCAA), Six-foot, 183 pounds ...high-end skating, play-reading ability and understanding of how to guide players where he wants them to use his stick and body positioning to take the puck away.6. Artyom Levshunov (BLR), RHD, Michigan State (NCAA), 6-foot-2, 208 pounds ...has just about all of the physical tools you could ask for in a defender... shot is booming, and he can make solid, crisp passes all over the ice... he looks a bit slow processing, can be a bit over-aggressiveAnd one more, just because I listed this kid in the original post: 10. Sam Dickinson (CAN), LHD, London (OHL), 6-foot-2, 199 pounds ...very strong skater, and he has the size NHL clubs want in a defender... can make some unwise decisions... decision-making isn’t always the easiest thing to fix, and that’s where Dickinson needs work the mostand the big Russian: 13. Anton Silayev (RUS), LHD, Nizhny Novgorod (KHL), 6-foot-7, 211 pounds It’s not often that a defender comes around with the size and skating ability Silayev has. So much of his offense came at the start of the year when everyone was hyping him up online with highlights, but when you really watch his game, you see that he isn’t that guy... lacks the puck handling to be a high-end puck rusher... can be a bit passive defensively... the ultimate ball of clay in this year’s draft
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 9:29:28 GMT
And NHL comparables (from different sources):
Ivan Demidov (Kaprizov) Berkly Catton (Jack Hughes) Cayden Lindstrom (Pierre-Luc Dubois / Getzlaf) Zeev Buium (Luke Hughes / Adam Fox) Artyom Levshunov (Pietrangelo) Sam Dickinson (Hanifin) Anton Silayev (Tyler Myers)
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 10:39:43 GMT
Other fun facts:
Buium was born to Israeli immigrants. His mother played pro basketball in Israel.
Levshunov moved to the US barely knowing any English as a 16-year-old. He's studied English in his own words "eight hours a day", and now obviously he's in college. Levshunov played with Hawks goalie prospect Adam Gajan in Green Bay.
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Post by garyu on May 8, 2024 12:21:47 GMT
And NHL comparables (from different sources): Ivan Demidov (Kaprizov) Berkly Catton (Jack Hughes) Cayden Lindstrom (Pierre-Luc Dubois / Getzlaf) Zeev Buium (Luke Hughes / Adam Fox) Artyom Levshunov (Pietrangelo) Sam Dickinson (Hanifin) Anton Silayev (Tyler Myers) Big difference between Getzlaf and a dog like PLD.
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Post by Merpes on May 8, 2024 12:29:48 GMT
USHL and Michigan State seems like a no brainer for the Hawks.
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 13:29:20 GMT
And NHL comparables (from different sources): Ivan Demidov (Kaprizov) Berkly Catton (Jack Hughes) Cayden Lindstrom (Pierre-Luc Dubois / Getzlaf) Zeev Buium (Luke Hughes / Adam Fox) Artyom Levshunov (Pietrangelo) Sam Dickinson (Hanifin) Anton Silayev (Tyler Myers) Big difference between Getzlaf and a dog like PLD. Yet the dog got drafted higher...
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Post by Merpes on May 8, 2024 13:34:55 GMT
Lindstrom is giving me Kirby Dach vibes. Hard pass.
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 13:47:57 GMT
If you can know for sure that Demidov can actually come over to North America, he'd probably be the pick. But it would be tempting to trade down 1-3 spots, if one of the other teams like him more. As far as we know, he might get drafted to the military, or forced to play in the KHL until he is 27, or just flat out murdered. The risks are high.
Levshunov and Buium seem like nice pieces, but don't the Hawks already have a shit ton of young d-men? You figure KD is going to trade some of them, if he drafts another d-man this high, to make some room.
Going with a forward, again, trading down might be wise. Kylie D should be on the phone right now, trying to gauge what teams are interested in drafting a d-man this high. Maybe you can grab a 2nd OA level forward, and get a sweetener on top.
At the same time, I'm also thinking this draft isn't particularly strong, so maybe just keep the pick and get first dips on the most likely show stealer, whoever that is.
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 13:51:52 GMT
Thinking outside the box - what about 2nd overall to San Jose for Will Smith (2023 4th overall)? The Sharks now have a top line center in Celebrini, so maybe Smith isn't as valuable to them anymore?
I would also ask about Carlsson or Fantilli, but those guys aren't going to be moved for a scratch ticket.
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 14:10:13 GMT
Also, Demidov could just be Nail Yakupov, even if he does come over.
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Post by garyu on May 8, 2024 14:24:35 GMT
Also, Demidov could just be Nail Yakupov, even if he does come over. Demidov makes sense, as does Levshunov (RHD).
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Post by lari on May 8, 2024 14:54:50 GMT
Kaprizov came to North America six years after he was drafted. Demidov is 17. And the situation is a lot worse in Russia now than what it was then.
It could easily be the 2030s until he comes over.
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