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Post by Merpes on Jun 27, 2024 22:38:20 GMT
Get a room! I’ll video tape. With a giant VHS Camcorder, no doubt. The only way to do it.
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Post by lari on Jun 28, 2024 6:34:05 GMT
Shea Weber was a 2nd rounder, yes? Demidov just seems to have it all O-wisel Go through every team in the league and their top d-men weren't drafted top 5 overall. It's a waste of assets. I think The Athletic just did a story on this. And the result was the opposite. Top-10 picks are the way to get star defensemen. What’s harder to draft, an elite winger or No. 1 defenseman? Breaking down the Blackhawks’ dilemmaOf the top 20 defensemen this season, all 20 were drafted into the NHL. Five were top-five picks, seven were in the top 10 and 13 were taken in the first round.Of the top 20 wingers this season, 19 were drafted into the NHL, with Artemi Panarin being the lone undrafted player in the bunch. Three were drafted in the top five, six in the top 10 and 11 in the first round.It’s a marginal difference, but the numbers suggest it might be a little easier to find high-end forward talent later in the draft than high-end talent on the back end.And there's more: Of the top 20 defensemen, it took an average of 2.4 years for them to become full-time NHL players after being drafted. If you take out the late-blooming Gustav Forsling and Devon Toews, that number drops to 1.85 years. Only three of the defensemen made the jump straight to the NHL: Drew Doughty, Victor Hedman and Rasmus Dahlin.Of the top 20 wingers, it took an average of 2.58 years to become full-time NHLers, with Matthew and Brady Tkachuk the only two to jump right into the NHL (other wingers have made the jump, such as Alexis Lafrenière, of course, but they’re not among the top 20 at their position). If you take out late-bloomers Kirill Kaprizov, Zach Hyman and Carter Verhaeghe, it drops to an even two-year average.So you're more likely to find a top level winger outside the top picks, and the ones you draft take on average longer to develop than d-men. And that's even excluding the fact Demidov only gets to leave Russia in or around the year 2035.
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Post by lari on Jun 28, 2024 11:11:38 GMT
NHL.com writers Adam Kimelman and Mike G. Morreale are in agreement on how the first three selections will go, starting with the San Jose Sharks selecting Boston University center Macklin Celebrini with the No. 1 pick, Michigan State defenseman Artyom Levshunov going No. 2 to the Chicago Blackhawks and Nizhny Novgorad defenseman Anton Silayev going to the Anaheim Ducks at No. 3.Final Mock 2024 NHL Draft: Intrigue after 1st 3 picks
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Post by garyu on Jun 28, 2024 11:38:06 GMT
NHL.com writers Adam Kimelman and Mike G. Morreale are in agreement on how the first three selections will go, starting with the San Jose Sharks selecting Boston University center Macklin Celebrini with the No. 1 pick, Michigan State defenseman Artyom Levshunov going No. 2 to the Chicago Blackhawks and Nizhny Novgorad defenseman Anton Silayev going to the Anaheim Ducks at No. 3.Final Mock 2024 NHL Draft: Intrigue after 1st 3 picks Ruski-lover. I mean Belaruski lover.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 28, 2024 14:01:49 GMT
Go through every team in the league and their top d-men weren't drafted top 5 overall. It's a waste of assets. I think The Athletic just did a story on this. And the result was the opposite. Top-10 picks are the way to get star defensemen. What’s harder to draft, an elite winger or No. 1 defenseman? Breaking down the Blackhawks’ dilemmaOf the top 20 defensemen this season, all 20 were drafted into the NHL. Five were top-five picks, seven were in the top 10 and 13 were taken in the first round.Of the top 20 wingers this season, 19 were drafted into the NHL, with Artemi Panarin being the lone undrafted player in the bunch. Three were drafted in the top five, six in the top 10 and 11 in the first round.It’s a marginal difference, but the numbers suggest it might be a little easier to find high-end forward talent later in the draft than high-end talent on the back end.And there's more: Of the top 20 defensemen, it took an average of 2.4 years for them to become full-time NHL players after being drafted. If you take out the late-blooming Gustav Forsling and Devon Toews, that number drops to 1.85 years. Only three of the defensemen made the jump straight to the NHL: Drew Doughty, Victor Hedman and Rasmus Dahlin.Of the top 20 wingers, it took an average of 2.58 years to become full-time NHLers, with Matthew and Brady Tkachuk the only two to jump right into the NHL (other wingers have made the jump, such as Alexis Lafrenière, of course, but they’re not among the top 20 at their position). If you take out late-bloomers Kirill Kaprizov, Zach Hyman and Carter Verhaeghe, it drops to an even two-year average.So you're more likely to find a top level winger outside the top picks, and the ones you draft take on average longer to develop than d-men. And that's even excluding the fact Demidov only gets to leave Russia in or around the year 2035. Thanks for taking the time!
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Post by Merpes on Jun 28, 2024 18:46:44 GMT
MTL just moved up to 21 with their second 1st rounder. Think the # 2 is in play now.
5, 21, and one of their top prospects.
Hawks could still get Lev at 5 since he’s been mocked all over.
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Post by Jimmy on Jun 28, 2024 18:56:36 GMT
Mixed emotions about trading down. If Levshunov is your guy, just take him unless you're 100% sure he'll make it to 5.
I'd rather trade up to 4 from 18 and get both.
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Post by garyu on Jun 28, 2024 19:29:28 GMT
MTL just moved up to 21 with their second 1st rounder. Think the # 2 is in play now. 5, 21, and one of their top prospects. Hawks could still get Lev at 5 since he’s been mocked all over. Since Anaheim traded Drysdale, Levshunov would make sense for them at 3.
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Post by Merpes on Jun 28, 2024 19:53:38 GMT
Ok then grab the Russian Giraffe.
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 28, 2024 20:19:18 GMT
Ok then grab the Russian Giraffe. I’d like that just to have a giraffe reference in game threads again
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 28, 2024 20:21:45 GMT
I had not thought about the Habs packaging things for the number 2…it’s hard to turn down an extra pick and only a 3 spot drop.
Having said that, I don’t expect it since I think the hawks have decided who they want and they won’t move in case they lose out.
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Post by Merpes on Jun 28, 2024 20:39:20 GMT
I had not thought about the Habs packaging things for the number 2…it’s hard to turn down an extra pick and only a 3 spot drop. Having said that, I don’t expect it since I think the hawks have decided who they want and they won’t move in case they lose out. KD keeps it close to the vest. I don’t think what he says to media means anything. Smokescreen!
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Post by khawk20 on Jun 28, 2024 21:20:21 GMT
No I mean if they dropped to fifth in a trade with Montreal they might miss their target.
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Post by lari on Jun 28, 2024 21:21:59 GMT
I think the hawks have decided who they want I hear the scouts packed their 12-sided dice to the event.
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Post by garyu on Jun 28, 2024 22:33:39 GMT
No I mean if they dropped to fifth in a trade with Montreal they might miss their target. Levshunov, Silayev, Demidov or Buium..
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