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Post by dhull10 on Jan 14, 2018 21:48:38 GMT
Shut out at home the ultimate disgrace. Just when you think this team is putting things together they take a big dump. Pretty much a .500 team
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Post by jimc on Jan 14, 2018 21:50:30 GMT
Pez...you and i agree on Q...for sure.
But the players are equally culpable...they are the ones simply going through the motions and mailing it in.
Q makes mind-numbingly bad lineup and useage decisions, but the payers still have to perform.
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Post by jimc on Jan 14, 2018 21:52:00 GMT
Hawks now technically below .500, with 22 W and 23 L
Half a dozen loser points thrown in.
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Post by lari on Jan 14, 2018 21:55:31 GMT
How many of those "wins" were gimmick wins on 3-on-3 OT or shootout?
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 14, 2018 22:17:38 GMT
Embarrassing effort.
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 14, 2018 22:58:45 GMT
Pez...you and i agree on Q...for sure. But the players are equally culpable...they are the ones simply going through the motions and mailing it in. Q makes mind-numbingly bad lineup and useage decisions, but the payers still have to perform. There reaches a point where even the most professional, hardest working individuals, just won't play for a coach anymore... I think the Hawks are there. Q has no idea how a modern offense should work. He stifles creativity, hates guys that take chances, does not forecheck, crucifies young players' mistakes, and prefers a fucking mindless dump the puck and grind out goals approach to the game. Lose the puck, and sit back and wait for the other team to come to you in the neutral zone... God forbid someone throws a check, or clears the front of the crease. Active sticks for all. All the while, putting guys in a position to fail, playing favorites, and having double standards all up and down the lineup. Why has the Rutta/Forsling pair been tasked as the shutdown pair all season? Why are they getting a ton of D zone starts? Why is Keith playing with offensive defensemen? When has that ever worked well, in his entire career? He has always been paired with a SAH defenseman, so he can play his game. Why do the Hawks always have AT LEAST one defenseman, playing his offside? Put Murphy on the fucking right side already, instead of intentionally making this more difficult for him. Why is Bouma still in the fucking lineup? Why is Hartman still playing in the top six, with Schmaltz and Kane? Why is Sharp still getting PP time? Why does this PP still fucking suck? Why are there NO shooting options setup? You put the pointmen on their offhand...except on the PP where you actually SHOULD do it? Stationary, stagnant, unimaginative, ineffective, predictable bullshit all over the "power play". It's a fucking joke. I'm not sure how the team lasted this long with him at the helm. They have only succeeded as a result of overwhelming, hall of fame talent. Is it any surprise the most effective players for the Hawks the last few seasons are the new guys? Within a season, he coaches pretty much all aggressiveness and tenacity out of players. Panik was hitting everything that moved last season. Causing turnovers, forechecking hard, playing with grit... This season, a fucking powder puff. Hartman? Same story. The grit, aggressive forecheck, and physicality is gone.
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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2018 0:18:47 GMT
I want to marry you....and our love child will be that last post
That is a GREAT point about new guys...his drilling any sack or physicality out of players drives me to drink...Hayden literally got demoted for fighting. His double standard of accountability and responsibility for vets vs yewts is absurd. his 'active aticks' mantra is mind numbing to watch. When Kane is not on the ice, they literally dont have the ability to effectively enter the zone with possession.
Also...you missed a PP staple under Q...weak shot attempts from long distance that are wide of the net orc easily blocked...resulting in easy zone clears for the PK.
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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2018 0:24:31 GMT
How the fuck can Q turn the Hawks into a dump and chase team? With a passive 1-2 forececk? Seriously Is the plan to just give the opposition the puck in their own zone and try and pick a pocket coming through the neutral zone??? When was the last time a Hawk Dman even tried to engage in, let alone win a puck battle in the corners or crease? Just collapse back into the goalie and hope he can freeze the puck for a whistle.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 15, 2018 1:07:10 GMT
Is it any surprise the most effective players for the Hawks the last few seasons are the new guys? Within a season, he coaches pretty much all aggressiveness and tenacity out of players. Panik was hitting everything that moved last season. Causing turnovers, forechecking hard, playing with grit... This season, a fucking powder puff. Hartman? Same story. The grit, aggressive forecheck, and physicality is gone. I love this post.
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 15, 2018 3:26:10 GMT
How the fuck can Q turn the Hawks into a dump and chase team? With a passive 1-2 forececk? Seriously Is the plan to just give the opposition the puck in their own zone and try and pick a pocket coming through the neutral zone??? When was the last time a Hawk Dman even tried to engage in, let alone win a puck battle in the corners or crease? Just collapse back into the goalie and hope he can freeze the puck for a whistle. It's infuriating. And that's a fantastic point. Your forecheck...actively works against your offensive "system"! Fucking DUH? You can't cycle and grind out goals(even if this was a good tactic in this day and age, which it isn't)...if you don't have puck possession. You can't gain puck possession...if you don't outman the opposition on the puck. I learned all of these things...as a 14 year old playing travel hockey. How the fuck can a "hall of fame" coach be so clueless as to how the fundamentals of hockey work? Dump the puck in? You better have two on the puck. First guy takes the man so he cannot possess or move the puck, second guy...gets the puck. HOCKEY 101!
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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2018 4:39:19 GMT
No wonder hossa sat out this year
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Post by angman37 on Jan 15, 2018 15:53:15 GMT
Haven't had a lot of time to post the last while, but yesterday's effort might have been one of the worst efforts I've seen from this team in the last 10 years. Complete fucking joke.
When they miss the playoffs by 4 points (maybe I'm being generous with that), yesterday's game will be 2 points they can point back to that they pissed away against a shit team.
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2018 16:55:15 GMT
Hossa wakes up every morning thanking God he got that rash so he doesn't need to be around these losers.
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2018 18:25:41 GMT
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Post by Pez68 on Jan 15, 2018 19:00:06 GMT
About time the media started to call this team out.
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