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Post by lari on Feb 26, 2018 20:23:08 GMT
The Rangers and the Bolts have history of trading captains/stars (Callahan for St.Louis).
But what's the going price for a franchise defenseman like McDonagh in today's league? I am curious.
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Post by jimc on Feb 26, 2018 20:23:47 GMT
JT Miller also part of Bolts/Rags trade
Maroon to Devils for a 3rd.
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Post by lari on Feb 26, 2018 20:29:55 GMT
What if it's Stammer? I remember the Rangers were dead set on acquiring him 2 years ago.
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Post by gadi on Feb 26, 2018 20:30:32 GMT
Tatar to the Knights for a 1st, 2nd & 3rd. Apparently Las Vegas also tried hard to get Karlsson.
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Post by Pez68 on Feb 26, 2018 20:30:55 GMT
What if it's Stammer? I remember the Rangers were dead set on acquiring him 2 years ago. Uhh...not sure if serious.
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Post by jimc on Feb 26, 2018 20:31:19 GMT
Tatar to Vegas gor a 1st 2nd and 3rd...jesus thats awful...especially for an expansion team
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Post by lari on Feb 26, 2018 20:40:22 GMT
Holy fuck Yzerman just robbed the Rangers.
1st + Namestnikov? 1st + Vladislav FUCKING NAMESTNIKOV?! That's what it takes to get a franchise defenseman?
I'd have insisted on Brayden Point, AT THE VERY LEAST. What is Jeff Gorton even thinking? WHY? Does Stevie Y hold some sensitive pictures of him? Maybe Gorton was promised "That young Russian winger who scores a lot of points"?! Something-something-ov or -ev.
Yzerman won big.
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Post by Pez68 on Feb 26, 2018 20:41:11 GMT
To be fair, Vegas' picks this season are all going to be bottom 5 in the round. And I'm pretty sure they have a ton of draft picks already.
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Post by gadi on Feb 26, 2018 20:41:27 GMT
Vegas had a ton of extra picks due to their expansion draft moves. It makes sense they'd use them to try to get over the hump.
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Post by lari on Feb 26, 2018 20:42:24 GMT
Did Tommy Wingels at least get traded?
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Post by Pez68 on Feb 26, 2018 20:47:39 GMT
I'm confused. Nashville traded Aberg for Letestu. Then they traded Letestu to Columbus for a 4th? I wonder if the Hawks got Columbus' 4th, or Nashville's in the Hartman trade.
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Post by markwojo on Feb 26, 2018 20:50:09 GMT
Holy fuck Yzerman just robbed the Rangers. 1st + Namestnikov? 1st + Vladislav FUCKING NAMESTNIKOV?! That's what it takes to get a franchise defenseman? I'd have insisted on Brayden Point, AT THE VERY LEAST. What is Jeff Gorton even thinking? WHY? Does Stevie Y hold some sensitive pictures of him? Maybe Gorton was promised "That young Russian winger who scores a lot of points"?! Something-something-ov or -ev. Yzerman won big. Also sent Brett Howden (a 2016 first rounder that seems to have developed well), & Libor Hajek who went 37th overall in 2016. To me it is JT Miller for Namestnikov and then McDonagh for Howden, Hajek, a 1st, and a 2nd (conditionally turns into another first if they win the Cup) for one year of McDonagh. This seems like a pretty good trade for both. Tampa gets the quality players for a Cup run and NYR get a quantity of pretty good assets to build cheap depth in a rebuild.
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Post by lari on Feb 26, 2018 20:58:29 GMT
I don't think I would have been happy with cheap depth in exchange for McDonagh.
McDonagh's better than Karlsson. I don't see Ottawa trading Karlsson for a bunch of depth pieces. And that first rounder really is a low one. A Ryan Hartman is worth that pick.
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Post by khawk20 on Feb 26, 2018 21:14:44 GMT
Bolts must think namestikov is a product of his linemates. And he very well could be.
McDonagh is a sweet piece for tampas blueline.
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Post by markwojo on Feb 26, 2018 22:00:43 GMT
I don't think I would have been happy with cheap depth in exchange for McDonagh. McDonagh's better than Karlsson. I don't see Ottawa trading Karlsson for a bunch of depth pieces. And that first rounder really is a low one. A Ryan Hartman is worth that pick. The question you (and I'm sure the Rangers asked themselves) should ask yourself is are the Rangers a Cup contender next year? I think the answer to that is clearly no. They likely still won't have anything resembling a #1 center barring a trade or UFA splash. If you agree that JT Miller for Namestnikov are a push, then you traded one year of McDonagh for 2 first and 2 2nds (and it becomes 3 firsts and a 2nd if Tampa wins the Cup). One of the first is 2 years in the development pipeline and the second was a high second also 2 years into development with both Howden and Hajek not far from being NHL players.
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