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Post by stbhawks19 on May 3, 2019 14:01:54 GMT
6’2”? Seems like a red flag for Stan
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Post by khawk20 on May 3, 2019 14:04:11 GMT
1st dman too no? seems like a very pressing need for the hawks. if they arent gonna try n move pick he should be their guy. But there are so many needs... The more I have thought about it, the more I don't dislike it if he gets picked at 3, at all. Byram may be ready to step in but with the cast of D that he will play with, will it hurt his development at all? Possibly...He will be asked to do more than he probably should be, but that could help him move forward as much as it could hinder his development. A forward taken at 3 could also step in and help and I think his development will not be nearly as compromised since the F group with skill is better than the D group Byram will be forced to play with. But finding forwards that can play through trades isn't nearly as challenging as finding D men that fill holes properly. You can find the Stromes though scouting and luck...Finding a 2-3 D-man the same way, not so often. My worry is that Stan picks the "Scott Scissons" of this forward bunch, which won't become apparent for a few years, years the Hawks don't really have. And no, I don't think it would be just a "stan" thing. After 1 and 2, with so many guys that could be picked at 3, any Gm could make the wrong choice. Byram may be the safest in that regard. He may not end up being a number 1 kind of D-man, but if he plays ten years in a legitimate 2 or 3 role that he is given time to develop into at the NHL level, that's ok, he would be a solid piece of the puzzle. So I think I would take Byram in that spot.
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Post by lari on May 3, 2019 14:14:29 GMT
isn't nearly as challenging as finding men that fill holes properly Fixed. And there's a few here on these boards that can help you with that.
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Post by gadi on May 3, 2019 17:16:01 GMT
Can't read past the first paragraph without a sub. Just sayin'. Ton of video in there, but here you go.
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Post by khawk20 on May 3, 2019 20:49:58 GMT
Thanks gadi. And thanks to lari for not disappointing me in predicting to myself what your takeaway from What I wrote there would be. Lol
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Post by garyu on May 4, 2019 0:55:17 GMT
I'm really glad I brought up Byram a coupla weeks ago..He does seem to be the guy. Unless of course, Kakko is available at #3/
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Post by Pain101 on May 4, 2019 1:23:47 GMT
Can't read past the first paragraph without a sub. Just sayin'. Ton of video in there, but here you go. Holy HF50! Anybody got cliff notes for this post?
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Post by dbc on May 4, 2019 5:21:16 GMT
It makes sense in the original article when you watch the video. Byram really does have a WTF moment in the example where he drifts away from the net.
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Post by Pez68 on May 4, 2019 7:09:16 GMT
And.....article invalidated right here:
Cozens is ....Brendan Perlini. The fact that he hasn't recognized this tells me he has no idea how to judge a player's hockey IQ.
GFY.
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Post by Merpes on May 5, 2019 17:29:08 GMT
Biggest mistake that Stan can make at this point is to think about a player to replace 88 or 19. Why? 88 and 19 still have a good 3-5 years as serviceable to above average players. 88 likely will still be elite. If you want to try to pry open the window one last time for a short go at it, you gotta pick a player that will compliment and assist the already existing core. That is Byram hands down. The Hawks can score goals like crazy already so why pick another forward? You need better bottom 6 depth/grinders to play a defensive game and a 1st pairing on defense. Bottom 6 is found in free agency and anything outside the top 3 in the draft. 1st pair dmen are at the top of the draft or they need many years to shake out (DK for example). I mean people are talking about finding a replacement for 88 or 19 when finding a replacement for 2 and 7 is by far the biggest obstacle facing the team going forward in the 88 and 19 era. WTF?
The time to replace 88 and 19 will be when they are about to retire. Then, you cross your fingers for more ping pong magic.
Besides, what forward other than Cozens isn't going to college? That right there simply puts a guy like Turcotte 4 years away which would be pointless for the Hawks.
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Post by lari on May 5, 2019 17:39:43 GMT
I think you pick the best player even if he is not ready anytime soon.
You can always just trade your newly acquired BPA for immediate help if it gets down to that. But taking a less valuable asset is something you'll probably feel sorry about down the line.
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Post by Merpes on May 5, 2019 17:43:44 GMT
The BPA is Byram so it should be a no brainer.
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Post by lari on May 5, 2019 18:41:01 GMT
Cozens is ....Brendan Perlini. If that is true, then it's a foregone conclusion Stan will pick him.
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Post by Pain101 on May 5, 2019 19:18:55 GMT
Cozens is ....Brendan Perlini. If that is true, then it's a foregone conclusion Stan will pick him. We're doomed!
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Post by chitownjeff on May 6, 2019 1:21:55 GMT
So if Hughes should somehow fall into the Hawks hands ala Savard do we take him or trade his rights to Seattle as long as they take Stan too
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