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Post by garyu on May 6, 2019 2:25:04 GMT
So if Hughes should somehow fall into the Hawks hands ala Savard do we take him or trade his rights to Seattle as long as they take Stan too Tempting...
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Post by HawkDad on May 6, 2019 4:09:01 GMT
No. Take Hughes, and then Stan becomes the sweetener in a separate deal that lands the Hawks Seatlle's first round pick in exchange for Kampf, Kahun, and Koekkuk.
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Post by lari on May 6, 2019 15:32:34 GMT
The BPA is Byram so it should be a no brainer. But that's the issue here. Is he really the BPA? You don't know that. He's getting ranked anywhere from 3 to 8. Scott Wheeler from the Athletic has him fifth. For instance. I don't want the fifth best player with the 3rd overall pick.
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Post by garyu on May 6, 2019 17:22:08 GMT
Everybody has 3-8 different.Hawks need to rebuild the D. It would be good to start with a 1st pair guy.
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Post by Giovi on May 6, 2019 18:02:16 GMT
The BPA is Byram so it should be a no brainer. But that's the issue here. Is he really the BPA? You don't know that. He's getting ranked anywhere from 3 to 8. Scott Wheeler from the Athletic has him fifth. For instance. I don't want the fifth best player with the 3rd overall pick. But Wheeler also says in that article that Byram is one of 3 he considers a possible #3 pick. BPA is going to vary from source to source. There may not end up being a consensus #3. There will be some consideration into need in that case. Or could be Kelley sees a clear #3 when its time to draft. Lots of different possibilities. But a lot of people here see more of a need for a potential #1 d than a potential #1 center. Given 19's age compared to 2's, im in that group.
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Post by garyu on May 6, 2019 19:36:27 GMT
But that's the issue here. Is he really the BPA? You don't know that. He's getting ranked anywhere from 3 to 8. Scott Wheeler from the Athletic has him fifth. For instance. I don't want the fifth best player with the 3rd overall pick. But Wheeler also says in that article that Byram is one of 3 he considers a possible #3 pick. BPA is going to vary from source to source. There may not end up being a consensus #3. There will be some consideration into need in that case. Or could be Kelley sees a clear #3 when its time to draft. Lots of different possibilities. But a lot of people here see more of a need for a potential #1 d than a potential #1 center. Given 19's age compared to 2's, im in that group. And anyone that doesn't see it that way is retarded. No offense.
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Post by lari on May 6, 2019 22:08:57 GMT
But Wheeler also says in that article that Byram is one of 3 he considers a possible #3 pick. BPA is going to vary from source to source. There may not end up being a consensus #3. There will be some consideration into need in that case. Or could be Kelley sees a clear #3 when its time to draft. Lots of different possibilities. But a lot of people here see more of a need for a potential #1 d than a potential #1 center. Given 19's age compared to 2's, im in that group. And anyone that doesn't see it that way is retarded. No offense. So you're going to use the highest pick the team has had in over a decade to fill an immediate need, and not just get the best player and most valuable asset long term? I agree it's pretty close with 3-8 but you're just setting up the Avs to be the big winners at draft day if you let them grab the 3rd best player, regardless of position, because you've narrowed your own options. You have to interview and analyze Turcotte, Cozens, Dach and the Russian kid very thoroughly to make sure they don't have the makings of a future Hall of Famer. #3 can be a Toews and it can be a Barker. We've seen it.
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Post by Giovi on May 7, 2019 0:21:24 GMT
And anyone that doesn't see it that way is retarded. No offense. So you're going to use the highest pick the team has had in over a decade to fill an immediate need, and not just get the best player and most valuable asset long term? I agree it's pretty close with 3-8 but you're just setting up the Avs to be the big winners at draft day if you let them grab the 3rd best player, regardless of position, because you've narrowed your own options. You have to interview and analyze Turcotte, Cozens, Dach and the Russian kid very thoroughly to make sure they don't have the makings of a future Hall of Famer. #3 can be a Toews and it can be a Barker. We've seen it. Honestly, i trust Kelley to do his homework on this. And i dont think, when all the end of season lists are released, we're going to see a consensus #3.
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Post by Merpes on May 7, 2019 0:46:36 GMT
I'd prefer one of Kakko or Hughes to fall to the Hawks. Considering how lucky the Hawks were to jump to 3 in the first place, I think we would be more likely to catch Hawkdad with a woman in his bed than the Devils and Rangers passing on those two.
I have to imagine Detroit wants Byram bad like how Jim wants to pass out candy at a live shooting of Nickelodeon so they will have to trade up. I'd be okay with dropping down to 6 while grabbing a nice haul from Detroit. That still gives you a shot at one of the Russian, Turcotte, or Cozens. That's a win-win.
If you Stan pat, I'd go with Byram. He's killing the WHL playoffs elevating his game when it matters most. That's what you want to see.
*Should qualify that the woman in Hawkdad's bed might be wearing a strap on so the odds are not as bad as I first indicated.
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Post by garyu on May 7, 2019 0:56:42 GMT
I'd prefer one of Kakko or Hughes to fall to the Hawks. Considering how lucky the Hawks were to jump to 3 in the first place, I think we would be more likely to catch Hawkdad with a woman in his bed than the Devils and Rangers passing on those two. I have to imagine Detroit wants Byram bad like how Jim wants to pass out candy at a live shooting of Nickelodeon so they will have to trade up. I'd be okay with dropping down to 6 while grabbing a nice haul from Detroit. That still gives you a shot at one of the Russian, Turcotte, or Cozens. That's a win-win. If you Stan pat, I'd go with Byram. He's killing the WHL playoffs elevating his game when it matters most. That's what you want to see. *Should qualify that the woman in Hawkdad's bed might be wearing a strap on so the odds are not as bad as I first indicated. Yah, might.
And Detroit would have to give their 1st, DeKuyser & a top prospect.
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Post by HawkDad on May 7, 2019 3:48:52 GMT
Strap/no strap, who cares. It's all about scoring.
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Post by garyu on May 7, 2019 10:26:08 GMT
Strap/no strap, who cares. It's all about scoring. Don't say how, just how much.
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Post by HawkDad on May 8, 2019 1:26:21 GMT
See, Gary gets it.
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Post by khawk20 on May 8, 2019 2:59:28 GMT
You forgot the "in any and all holes possible" part
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Post by HawkDad on May 8, 2019 3:25:53 GMT
Jeezus Gary !
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