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Post by gadi on May 16, 2019 20:19:07 GMT
Scott Powers claim that the Hawks think their prospect depth at D is better than any other position so he thinks the Hawks will take Turcotte.
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Post by khawk20 on May 16, 2019 21:33:39 GMT
I hope he's wrong. I think not taking the D would be a mistake at this point in what I am reading and hearing about him.
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Post by garyu on May 16, 2019 21:43:07 GMT
Scott Powers claim that the Hawks think their prospect depth at D is better than any other position so he thinks the Hawks will take Turcotte. If a bunch of 3(at best) thru 6 is what you're looking for.
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Post by jimc on May 17, 2019 14:40:03 GMT
The Hawks rank at the bottom of the league in their prospect pool. They do not have a single guy who projects to be a #1 D...they have a chance at that this year.
The F's available do not have as high a ceiling at their position.
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Post by jimc on May 17, 2019 14:41:20 GMT
Scott Powers claim that the Hawks think their prospect depth at D is better than any other position so he thinks the Hawks will take Turcotte. If a bunch of 3(at best) thru 6 is what you're looking for. Exactly...NHL depth...even 2nd pair...is a long way from a top guy...as opposed to Hawk Dad, who is a bottom guy...
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Post by lari on May 17, 2019 18:48:34 GMT
Turcotte to me looks like a 2nd line player.
I mean, he's a 2nd line player on his junior team.
Good at everything, not great at anything.
EDIT: I can actually like my own posts?
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Post by garyu on May 17, 2019 18:56:11 GMT
If a bunch of 3(at best) thru 6 is what you're looking for. Exactly...NHL depth...even 2nd pair...is a long way from a top guy...as opposed to Hawk Dad, who is a bottom guy... See Jon Klemm.
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Post by garyu on May 17, 2019 18:58:05 GMT
Turcotte to me looks like a 2nd line player. I mean, he's a 2nd line player on his junior team. Good at everything, not great at anything. EDIT: I can actually like my own posts? Nobody's saying Turcotte isn't good, Byram would be a better choice. And yes, I know if Stan reads this, I'm fucked. As far as liking your posts, at least someone would!
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Post by ballz09 on May 17, 2019 19:32:46 GMT
The Hawks rank at the bottom of the league in their prospect pool. They do not have a single guy who projects to be a #1 D...they have a chance at that this year. The F's available do not have as high a ceiling at their position. Still paying the consequences for trading Campbell Duh!
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Post by HawkDad on May 17, 2019 22:06:03 GMT
If a bunch of 3(at best) thru 6 is what you're looking for. Exactly...NHL depth...even 2nd pair...is a long way from a top guy...as opposed to Hawk Dad, who is a bottom guy... Whatever works for the church ladies. Tonight is volunteer night !
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Post by Merpes on May 18, 2019 20:41:29 GMT
Just because the Hawks have spent a lot of draft capital on dmen the last few drafts shouldn't exclude Byram automatically. It's rare to find a 1st pairing dmen that hit FA or become available in a trade. You have to groom them from within. Take Byram and deal from your surplus of other dmen to address other needs if it comes to that. Young capable dmen are worth a ton in trades more so than forwards.
It's like the analysts don't realize Keith is 36 and Seabrook is washed up. Hawks don't have a 1st pairing dmen on the active roster currently.
I'm also leery of drafting players from the USNTDP unless they fall into the Matthews category in the top 3. The USNTDP program is basically the globetrotters playing against the Dubuque Fighting Saints most of the time.
At least Kane went to the OHL for a season and dominated. I take an OHL or WHL player easily over Turcotte at 3. If the Hawks are drafting at 12 like everyone expected, a guy like Turcotte is fine. Top 3 you want game breakers and Byram is the only one that fits the bill unless Kakko or Hughes falls. I'd even put Podz over Turcotte at 3.
Fuck you, Stan!
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Post by garyu on May 18, 2019 21:01:07 GMT
Just because the Hawks have spent a lot of draft capital on dmen the last few drafts shouldn't exclude Byram automatically. It's rare to find a 1st pairing dmen that hit FA or become available in a trade. You have to groom them from within. Take Byram and deal from your surplus of other dmen to address other needs if it comes to that. Young capable dmen are worth a ton in trades more so than forwards. It's like the analysts don't realize Keith is 36 and Seabrook is washed up. Hawks don't have a 1st pairing dmen on the active roster currently. I'm also leery of drafting players from the USNTDP unless they fall into the Matthews category in the top 3. The USNTDP program is basically the globetrotters playing against the Dubuque Fighting Saints most of the time. At least Kane went to the OHL for a season and dominated. I take an OHL or WHL player easily over Turcotte at 3. If the Hawks are drafting at 12 like everyone expected, a guy like Turcotte is fine. Top 3 you want game breakers and Byram is the only one that fits the bill unless Kakko or Hughes falls. I'd even put Podz over Turcotte at 3. Fuck you, Stan! Well put.
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Post by lari on May 18, 2019 23:02:03 GMT
None of us know Byram though. Maybe he's happy just being in the NHL and fucking hot women. There might not be that fire inside that makes him reach that next level.
The mental aspect of an 18-year-old kid is just as important as the physical attributes. It's what decides whether they'll develop into an elite player. Especially if two players are close to each other in physical ability.
So if the Hawks pass on Byram, you can't judge the draft until maybe 5 years from now. It was just 2016 when the Jackets passed on Puljujarvi at #3 and it was 100% because of the mental aspect. Columbus has a Finnish GM and he was probably there at the interviews.
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Post by garyu on May 19, 2019 2:44:37 GMT
None of us know Byram though. Maybe he's happy just being in the NHL and fucking hot women. There might not be that fire inside that makes him reach that next level. The mental aspect of an 18-year-old kid is just as important as the physical attributes. It's what decides whether they'll develop into an elite player. Especially if two players are close to each other in physical ability. So if the Hawks pass on Byram, you can't judge the draft until maybe 5 years from now. It was just 2016 when the Jackets passed on Puljujarvi at #3 and it was 100% because of the mental aspect. Columbus has a Finnish GM and he was probably there at the interviews.Again, it appears to be important to Byram.
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Post by khawk20 on May 19, 2019 4:01:07 GMT
None of us know Byram though. Maybe he's happy just being in the NHL and fucking hot women. There might not be that fire inside that makes him reach that next level. The mental aspect of an 18-year-old kid is just as important as the physical attributes. It's what decides whether they'll develop into an elite player. Especially if two players are close to each other in physical ability. So if the Hawks pass on Byram, you can't judge the draft until maybe 5 years from now. It was just 2016 when the Jackets passed on Puljujarvi at #3 and it was 100% because of the mental aspect. Columbus has a Finnish GM and he was probably there at the interviews.Again, it appears to be important to Byram. Plus he probably knows how to use the quote function and stuff
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