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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2019 14:29:36 GMT
The Hawks have managed to give up 32 more goals than the next closest team.
That's fucking embarrassing...is there honestly one guy who could play in the top 4 on a contending team?
Maybe keith...that's it. Gus puts up some points, but is worse than Nick Leddy in his own zone. Dahlstrom cant cover his man with a blanket. Murphy doesnt do any one thing well...he just kind of exists and takes up space...hes a farce being that size and build, being that soft. They are a bottom pairing on any good team. Glad they're eating up such big tough minutes...and giving up scoring chances like its their job. Both were garbage last year, too. Joker might have a future as a 2nd pair guy, but its sure not today...hes soft and weak and timid...3rd pairing on the worst d in the league. Seabrook and Forsling and Koo Koo are not NHL dmen. Period.
Great work, stan.
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Post by garyu on Jan 15, 2019 15:15:14 GMT
Hawks D does have some issues.
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2019 15:48:54 GMT
Jokiharju is completely useless without the puck. By far the worst in his own zone. But he can realistically get better.
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Post by garyu on Jan 15, 2019 16:16:54 GMT
Jokiharju is completely useless without the puck. By far the worst in his own zone. But he can realistically get better. Either he needs to get much quicker or much stronger....
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Post by jrsamu on Jan 15, 2019 17:27:08 GMT
It is one game, but the whole season has exposed the cost of lousy draft position and not developing defensemen who can defend, save for Hjalmarsson.
Somebody else already said it - none of these defensemen save for maybe Joker are going to be on this team when it is relevant again. Even if the NHL goes 100% ice capades with a puck. I expect Keith to be gone by the trade deadline. Seabrook will have to be bought out if he doesn't finish his contract. And it says a lot about the current cast of characters - the defense will be worse when they are gone.
Fancy puck movers who can actually defend are not a dime a dozen....
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Post by garyu on Jan 15, 2019 17:31:43 GMT
It is one game, but the whole season has exposed the cost of lousy draft position and not developing defensemen who can defend, save for Hjalmarsson. Somebody else already said it - none of these defensemen save for maybe Joker are going to be on this team when it is relevant again. Even if the NHL goes 100% ice capades with a puck. I expect Keith to be gone by the trade deadline. Seabrook will have to be bought out if he doesn't finish his contract. And it says a lot about the current cast of characters - the defense will be worse when they are gone. Fancy puck movers who can actually defend are not a dime a dozen.... Stan thinks moving the puck is more important than stopping the other team from getting point blank chances by the truckload.
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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2019 18:24:33 GMT
Sadly, stans collection of 'puck movers' all just stand around and watch the opposing F's move the puck around the hawks zone...into the back of the net.
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Post by gadi on Jan 15, 2019 20:13:07 GMT
Jokiharju is completely useless without the puck. By far the worst in his own zone. But he can realistically get better. Yeah, he's 19. Of all the issues on D, him needing to get bigger & better in his own zone is the least of my worries.
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Post by lari on Jan 15, 2019 20:37:35 GMT
Jokiharju is completely useless without the puck. By far the worst in his own zone. But he can realistically get better. Yeah, he's 19. Of all the issues on D, him needing to get bigger & better in his own zone is the least of my worries. He should call Nate Schmidt.
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Post by jimc on Jan 15, 2019 20:59:12 GMT
He at least has upside...hes small and timid and currently overwhelmed, but I am happier with his learning process taking place under Colliton instead of Q.
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Post by khawk20 on Jan 16, 2019 0:51:20 GMT
Thebprovlem there might be how long he is asked to develop around the crap on d they will have for the next few years. At a certain point the psyche had to get scarred from the losing and soooo many goals against.
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Post by jimc on Jan 16, 2019 1:32:55 GMT
And a serious lack of quality role models!
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Post by gadi on Jan 16, 2019 18:35:44 GMT
And a serious lack of quality role models! Just have him watch film of Keith from 5 years ago and tell him to do that and not whatever the hell Keith is currently doing.
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