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Post by brendan on Apr 12, 2018 0:08:20 GMT
These "rankings" follow similarly some of the other metrics the internet folks devised ? Thought it was mildly interesting the nhl series prices while not opening exactly as soccer stats predict, did move in "his" direction. I took Boston and sharks given their prices and this lock solid info here. well see if I'm hanging from the ceiling fan next week
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 12, 2018 5:58:38 GMT
Have a feeling I'm gonna have a lot of blood on my hands when this is over.
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 12, 2018 6:05:03 GMT
Oh, but I can't speak too much for what other people have assembled. In all honesty, I think trying to put predictions on anything higher than 66% seems unrealistic for a sport like hockey. Bad bounces can ruin great teams with ease, or create teams with fortunate bounces. We can try to pretend that "no those teams deserve all that success" buuuuut every year we have some cinderella story that has no business being where they are.
The Central Division Champion Avs from a few years ago. This year's Avs The Flames a few years ago The Wild had a stupid long winning streak just last season? A brutal Maple Leafs team made a miracle run to the playoffs around 2012 which made them mistakenly believe they had something going. Last year's Senators, we all knew they were shit. Yet they kept winning playoff rounds. Probably this year's Golden Knights.
Luck is just too large of a component in the hockey season. It certainly makes things more fun and uncertain. But it can also lead to teams that deserved better to see a brutal end sooner than they should've
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Post by Hawksfan10 on Apr 12, 2018 16:13:29 GMT
They also have the better coach in this series by far. I'm not sold on any of the "favourites" in the East at all. I predict/(hope??) LAK destroys VGK as well. That's a situation that is long overdue to crash down to earth. You have Vegas? What's wrong with you? Do you also hate puppies & unicorns? I hate overhyped patchwork teams that have been handed every chance to succeed by the commissioner.
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Post by jimc on Apr 12, 2018 17:22:59 GMT
I heart you
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 12, 2018 17:38:36 GMT
I don't think Gary Bettman had anything to do with forcing Tallon to give away Marchessault and Riley. Why are you leaving a 30 goal scorer unprotected?
Then whatever the fuck Karlsson is doing with that absurd 23.4 shooting percent is sure to not be repeatable next season.
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Post by brendan on Apr 12, 2018 17:39:42 GMT
2am. Parade down Las Vegas blvd? ... maybe just a pool party
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Post by gadi on Apr 12, 2018 20:32:07 GMT
My apologies. Obviously competitive hockey is bad. Having a Sens-like trainwreck would have been more enjoyable...
Soccer is right, though. George McPhee clowned a lot of other GMs. This team shouldn't have been competitive, let alone this successful, with the 8th/9th best player from every other team.
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Post by khawk20 on Apr 12, 2018 21:50:35 GMT
It also speaks to how close the players are skill wise now. The same draft 20 years ago would have yielded a regularly shitty expansion team. Pick the right guys, put in the right system, and you can field a competitive team out of the gate.
Having said that I would suspect GMs will pay a lot better attention to what they have before Seattle gets their team, so I don't expect Seattle to be nearly as good. Their eventual GM choice will be the difference, although I thought McPhee wasn't great at the gig in the past.
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 13, 2018 1:50:12 GMT
Honestly, outside being gifted a franchise player through a tank job (Kane, Toews, Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin....) what GM has ever really shown he's earned any significant amount of praise?
Maybe Ken Holland is the last GM to really be a clear cut above the competition? And that's only because he realized there places other than the US & Canada. As soon as everyone was wise to that, the advantage was gone. I'm trying to think of GMs today who haven't had to depend on tanking to find great talent.
Is David Poile maybe the best GM out there? He has had some fairly successful teams with an organization that doesn't have the highest budget, and he hasn't had to rely much on high draft picks to keep his team moving.
And maybe we give Yzerman a nod if he can keep things going. He was given Stamkos as a present, but he's done a good job of finding his own gems.
But all in all... Yeah, McPhee is bad. So is nearly every other GM in the league.
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Post by Pez68 on Apr 13, 2018 2:16:03 GMT
It also speaks to how close the players are skill wise now. The same draft 20 years ago would have yielded a regularly shitty expansion team. Pick the right guys, put in the right system, and you can field a competitive team out of the gate. Having said that I would suspect GMs will pay a lot better attention to what they have before Seattle gets their team, so I don't expect Seattle to be nearly as good. Their eventual GM choice will be the difference, although I thought McPhee wasn't great at the gig in the past. This.
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 13, 2018 4:56:35 GMT
Ok, here's how it all breaks down from this system: Tampa over New Jersey Boston over Toronto Columbus over Washington Pittsburgh over Philadelphia Nashville over Colorado Winnipeg over Minnesota Vegas over LA -- This is looking like the closest matchup of the first round. Every other round has a sizeable gap between the two teams. San Jose over Anaheim Now, I do this round by round, but here's how the rest of it maps out assuming 100% accuracy: Boston over Tampa Pittsburgh over Columbus Winnipeg over Nashville San Jose over Vegas Boston over Pittsburgh Winnipeg over San Jose Boston over Winnipeg Unless the Sharks absolutely collapse in the next 7 minutes, we are at a perfect 8-0 after game 1 and obviously that means everything will remain perfect. Nothing else to discuss here. We can lock the thread now.
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Post by lari on Apr 13, 2018 17:09:50 GMT
I am 7-1, the only one wrong is the Vegas series.
My die roll prediction is 3-5.
I think the Devils and the Avalanche looked good though. I wouldn't rule out a Conference top seed getting eliminated, despite both winning their opening game. Or even both.
Also, the Caps are doing what the Caps always do.
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Post by jimc on Apr 13, 2018 18:13:59 GMT
Avs and Devils are one line teams...one player team in the case of NJ. Each ard using their b/u tenders. I will be very surprised if they win more than 2 games between them.
Caps definitely doing what caps do best.
It was so much fun watching the Loafs get pumped last night and listening to their idiot fans crying about the officiating...ahhhhhh...and now all the defending Cabdri...it makes me warm inside.
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Post by soccer24 on Apr 13, 2018 19:40:48 GMT
Twice I've seen the Cabdri thing now, I don't get it?
But other than that, I agree with everything else JimC laid out.
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