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Post by Merpes on Dec 3, 2019 4:03:44 GMT
First guy to be traded has to be Gus, right? There are some injuries but let’s call a spade a spade. Stan’s team sucks.
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Post by jimc on Dec 3, 2019 4:08:10 GMT
Stan Bowman Is the managerial equivalent of an Arby's Gyro.
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Post by khawk20 on Dec 3, 2019 5:14:13 GMT
I did not know there was such a thing...and I was better for it I think.
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Post by lari on Dec 3, 2019 11:13:06 GMT
Maatta sucks. Crawford sucks. Toews sucks. No hope. No life. No love.
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Post by dhull10 on Dec 3, 2019 11:26:57 GMT
A lot of blaming being a man short on social media for the loss, which is total BS. How many times does a team lose a player during the game due to an injury and still wins? it's 1 game shorthanded. Hawks are in a wicked tailspin which hurts even more as a few weeks ago they put on a nice winning streak. Perhaps empty seats at The UC will be the only thing that wakes up somebody that can fire Stan. This will be what the 3rd year in a row with zero home playoff games? That has to hurt the bottom line at some point. Budwiser can't be happy about lost beer sales, that's for sure.
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Post by Merpes on Dec 3, 2019 12:43:32 GMT
Not sure who is making the call, but this idea that this team could compete going back to after 2016 should be fired. Just pull the band aid off and admit you are in a full rebuild scenario. Making these trades for Shaw, DeHaan, and Maatta was always pointless. Trying to be something you’re not is just making it worse.
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Post by jimc on Dec 3, 2019 14:12:53 GMT
The armdancers are in full on revolt on social media..fire stan. Fire McD. Fore Colliton Its comical watching hockey's most obnoxious fanbase now clamouring for the things they previously ridiculed with great disdain.
Fucking imbeciles
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Post by garyu on Dec 3, 2019 15:26:13 GMT
Not sure who is making the call, but this idea that this team could compete going back to after 2016 should be fired. Just pull the band aid off and admit you are in a full rebuild scenario. Making these trades for Shaw, DeHaan, and Maatta was always pointless. Trying to be something you’re not is just making it worse. Maybe, just maybe Stan Bowman = Jim Hendry???
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Post by gadi on Dec 3, 2019 15:26:30 GMT
During the first period they showed a graphic that Allen is a mediocre goalie on shots stick side and high glove side and above average on shots 5 hole and low glove side . So of course the vast majority of the Hawks shots were low glove side.
If the fucking UC "stats" team could provide that information to fans, how the hell did the Hawks not do the same to their goddamn players?
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Post by gadi on Dec 3, 2019 15:28:23 GMT
The armdancers are in full on revolt on social media..fire stan. Fire McD. Fore Colliton Its comical watching hockey's most obnoxious fanbase now clamouring for the things they previously ridiculed with great disdain. Fucking imbeciles I think most armdancers were Team Q and have been pissed at Stan since he won the power struggle. The fact that the Panthers are nominally in the playoffs furthers the narrative that the Hawks picked the wrong person to keep.
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Post by garyu on Dec 3, 2019 15:29:10 GMT
During the first period they showed a graphic that Allen is a mediocre goalie on shots stick side and high glove side and above average on shots 5 hole and low glove side . So of course the vast majority of the Hawks shots were low glove side. If the fucking UC "stats" team could provide that information to fans, how the hell did the Hawks not do the same to their goddamn players? It's always nice to watch a Hawks game when you're having trouble sleeping...Very tiring. Blows very patiently never had to worry about the Hawks overwhelming them.
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Post by jimc on Dec 3, 2019 15:47:38 GMT
The armdancers are in full on revolt on social media..fire stan. Fire McD. Fore Colliton Its comical watching hockey's most obnoxious fanbase now clamouring for the things they previously ridiculed with great disdain. Fucking imbeciles I think most armdancers were Team Q and have been pissed at Stan since he won the power struggle. The fact that the Panthers are nominally in the playoffs furthers the narrative that the Hawks picked the wrong person to keep. That is a great point...many experts claiming Q would have this team in contention...
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Post by garyu on Dec 3, 2019 16:18:26 GMT
I think most armdancers were Team Q and have been pissed at Stan since he won the power struggle. The fact that the Panthers are nominally in the playoffs furthers the narrative that the Hawks picked the wrong person to keep. That is a great point...many experts claiming Q would have this team in contention... THIS team???
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Post by lari on Dec 3, 2019 16:34:41 GMT
In contention of... 6th in the division, instead of being in distant last place.
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 3, 2019 16:58:52 GMT
The "slap in the face to cure the hangover part" is this 2019-2020 squad is clearly better than the one that dressed last year to start the season, and IMO better than the one that ended last year. And except for the Nylander deal, they made some good moves since last fall. Except perhaps the most important one - picking someone with a track record behind the bench.
The one big risk factor is the team cannot/could not afford to lose its best defenseman, best center or Kane for an extended period. And they were playing under .500 with them in the lineup.
It was about this time that they hit bottom last year. They can still catch some fire and then claim (again) that the lack of a full lineup and/or injuries did them in blah blah blah.
Is the current power play really better than the one they deployed one year ago? That three month period last winter sure looks like an aberration now. At least the PK is better.
It gets better. Gustafsson has little to no trade value. If they give up on Nylander they will receive less than they gave up. A worst record in the league is closer than the playoffs right now.
Anyone who did not/does not think Stan has his fingerprints all over this is delusional.
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