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Post by brendan on Dec 3, 2019 17:35:22 GMT
why do the hawks persist to attack the puck flatfooted one at a time in the neutral zone...
throughly saddening defeat. pos heartless bums.
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Post by stbhawks19 on Dec 3, 2019 17:42:28 GMT
I’m sure things will pick up in Boston Thursday
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Post by garyu on Dec 3, 2019 18:40:29 GMT
I’m sure things will pick up in Boston Thursday Yep, the Broons will undoubtedly run every Hawk they see. And about those Black/White uni's...Like watching the Hawks in the 60's, where's Reg Fleming?
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Post by brendan on Dec 3, 2019 18:43:29 GMT
the jerseys are so bad on tv.
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Post by gadi on Dec 3, 2019 18:43:40 GMT
The "slap in the face to cure the hangover part" is this 2019-2020 squad is clearly better than the one that dressed last year to start the season, and IMO better than the one that ended last year. And except for the Nylander deal, they made some good moves since last fall. Except perhaps the most important one - picking someone with a track record behind the bench. The one big risk factor is the team cannot/could not afford to lose its best defenseman, best center or Kane for an extended period. And they were playing under .500 with them in the lineup. It was about this time that they hit bottom last year. They can still catch some fire and then claim (again) that the lack of a full lineup and/or injuries did them in blah blah blah. Is the current power play really better than the one they deployed one year ago? That three month period last winter sure looks like an aberration now. At least the PK is better. It gets better. Gustafsson has little to no trade value. If they give up on Nylander they will receive less than they gave up. A worst record in the league is closer than the playoffs right now. Anyone who did not/does not think Stan has his fingerprints all over this is delusional. I am not going to defend Colliton, because he seems like a guy to me. But while I agree that the moves Stan made during the offseason were generally positive (except the Nylander trade), except for the Lehner signing they only moved the needle a small amount. And when you counter that with Toews going back to being an 3rd line center and Gustafsson, Strome and (sadly) Debrincat regressing more towards their mean, it wasn't enough to actually make the team better. Which, as said, is more Stan's fault than the guy behind the bench who is in over his head.
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Post by jimc on Dec 3, 2019 19:13:48 GMT
That Nylander trade was horrific, and set the franchise back.
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 3, 2019 22:44:44 GMT
The "slap in the face to cure the hangover part" is this 2019-2020 squad is clearly better than the one that dressed last year to start the season, and IMO better than the one that ended last year. And except for the Nylander deal, they made some good moves since last fall. Except perhaps the most important one - picking someone with a track record behind the bench. The one big risk factor is the team cannot/could not afford to lose its best defenseman, best center or Kane for an extended period. And they were playing under .500 with them in the lineup. It was about this time that they hit bottom last year. They can still catch some fire and then claim (again) that the lack of a full lineup and/or injuries did them in blah blah blah. Is the current power play really better than the one they deployed one year ago? That three month period last winter sure looks like an aberration now. At least the PK is better. It gets better. Gustafsson has little to no trade value. If they give up on Nylander they will receive less than they gave up. A worst record in the league is closer than the playoffs right now. Anyone who did not/does not think Stan has his fingerprints all over this is delusional. I am not going to defend Colliton, because he seems like a guy to me. But while I agree that the moves Stan made during the offseason were generally positive (except the Nylander trade), except for the Lehner signing they only moved the needle a small amount. And when you counter that with Toews going back to being an 3rd line center and Gustafsson, Strome and (sadly) Debrincat regressing more towards their mean, it wasn't enough to actually make the team better. Which, as said, is more Stan's fault than the guy behind the bench who is in over his head. How hard is it to pair Kane with Toews? That is what jump started him last year, and Toews has never been the kind of offensive player that can create on his own. Nor Saad for that matter other than the breakaway speed. So it is up to Nylander to create for the Toews line? Good luck with that strategy. It was inevitable that Debricat would have a lull (I still think it is temporary) because of the new contract signing. What is the excuse for Gustafsson and Strome who are both playing for new contracts (injuries notwithstanding)?
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Post by jimc on Dec 4, 2019 2:03:37 GMT
This team is no better than last year becsuse of regression of several key players...namely Toews, Gusto, Strome and DeBrincat. Then there is the continued fall off in Seabrook's game...and even Keith.
DeHaan and Maatta are upgrades over some of the turds from last year, but that D corps is still woefully inadequate, and still includes Slater Poopoo. Connor Murphy is both ridiculously overpaid...and overrated.
This team is exactly where it belongs when you factor in the incompetent coaching it gets.
Oh..and ALL of this rests at the feet of one 'man'...
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Post by Merpes on Dec 4, 2019 2:23:22 GMT
Don't see the regression in Strome's game. He's on pace for 60 points over 82 games. He's not the problem. Debrincat has regressed considerably. Gus can put up 60 points if you want to have no defensive structure. Toews has to be the most disappointing player in the NHL at this point. What a disgrace.
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Post by jimc on Dec 4, 2019 3:09:31 GMT
Gus is nowhere near his output from last year...which isnt surprising as he shot like 10% above the league average for dmen and the team as a whole shot over 2% above league average when he was on the ice...he was the #1 regression candidate in the league.
Strome hasn't been nearly as effective this year, Cat and Toews just suck.
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Post by brendan on Dec 4, 2019 4:08:22 GMT
gusto has also been attempting to stay home. hes rarely moving the puck up ice. hes not shooting much from up top on the pp.
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Post by jimc on Dec 4, 2019 5:42:19 GMT
He is incapable of playing defense. He may as well try and freelance offensively.
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Post by garyu on Dec 4, 2019 6:03:54 GMT
Don't see the regression in Strome's game. He's on pace for 60 points over 82 games. He's not the problem. Debrincat has regressed considerably. Gus can put up 60 points if you want to have no defensive structure. Toews has to be the most disappointing player in the NHL at this point. What a disgrace. Oxymoron, As though they have any D-structure.
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Post by brendan on Dec 4, 2019 7:14:29 GMT
He is incapable of playing defense. He may as well try and freelance offensively. hes been just as good as the rest... which isnt good. im all for him going nuts.. how do i apply to coach.
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Post by jrsamu on Dec 4, 2019 12:45:53 GMT
Seabrook has been better since paired with deHaan. Still nowhere near his prime, but he has not regressed further IMO. Toews and Keith definitely have, and yet Keith is still their best defenseman and #19 their best center.
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