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Post by lari on Aug 23, 2020 12:52:13 GMT
Hawks have the 17th pick. Unfortunately, the Canadiens just took Kaiden Guhle, a 6'3" Canadian d-man, with their 16th overall pick. Both because it's a realistic possibility, and also to make this poll more interesting, because we know everyone here salivates over big, manly Canadian d-men.
So now the only realistic top candidates are forwards. You must pick one!
A quick preview is in order.
Noel Gunler, SWE
6'1" winger. Played in top Swedish men's league and scored 13pts in 45 games. Good hands, size and drives to the net.
Rodion Amirov, RUS
6'0" winger. 21 games in KHL, 2pts. But tore up the minor league. Has impressive speed and is also good defensively (!).
Dylan Holloway, CAN
6'0" forward. NCAA player, 17pts in 35 games in his freshman year (Wisconsin). Gritty two-way power forward. Can play wing and center.
Jan Mysak, CZE
6'0" winger. 5+4 in 26 games in the Czech league. Then signed with Hamilton in January and scored 15 goals and 25pts in 22 games in the OHL. An excellent shooter.
Hendrix Lapierre, CAN
6'0" center. 17pts in 19 games in the QMHJL. A playmaker, very high ceiling, but concussion issues as evidenced by the low games played total, have lowered his ranking. Could be a high risk, high reward pick.
Yaroslav Askarov, RUS
6'3 goalie. Played in the Russian minor league. Highest ranked goalie in the draft. Has the chance to be the best goalie of his generation. Highly technical. Has all the tools. Russian goalies are the new thing. Is Askarov another franchise goalie in the making?
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Post by garyu on Aug 23, 2020 13:53:42 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe), Askarov is supposed to be great (it's just that 1st round thing).
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Post by lari on Aug 23, 2020 14:19:10 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe), Askarov is supposed to be great (it's just that 1st round thing). You absolutely need to be wary of goalies AND of Russians. Who knows if he ever makes the next step, or if he ever even comes to North America. It could be a wasted pick. But the Russian goaltending school has upped their game significantly in the last decade. One could just as well end up regretting not drafting him. Georgiev, Samsonov, Shesterkin are hot names and many GM's will want a piece of that action. Though you could probably trade for Georgiev/Shesterkin. The Rangers have a bit of a dilemma at hand with Lundqvist under contract. The selection of forwards at that point in the draft is middle six type potential with a chance of a gem maybe. Or a complete bust, high chance of that too.
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Post by lari on Aug 23, 2020 14:28:08 GMT
17th OA picks from 2000->
2000 LW Alexei Mikhnov (Oilers BUST!) 2001 D Carlo Colaiacovo (3rd pair D) 2002 C Boyd Gordon (bottom six) 2003 L Zach Parise (jackpot) 2004 G Marek Schwartz (STL BUST!) 2005 C Martin Hanzal (excellent pick, 2nd liner) 2006 C Trevor Lewis (bottom six) 2007 R Alexei Cherepanov (died 2008) 2008 D Jake Gardiner (excellent pick, top 4 D) 2009 D David Rundblad (The Legend Himself) 2010 C Joey Hishon (Avs BUST!) 2011 D Nathan Beaulieu (3rd pair D) 2012 C Tomas Hertl (jackpot) 2013 C Curtis Lazar (bottom six) 2014 D Travis Sanheim (excellent pick, top 4 D) 2015 C Kyle Connor (excellent pick, top six) 2016-2019 jury is out
So that's 16 players drafted.
2x Jackpots 4x Excellent player 5x Bottom six / bottom pair 4x Bust 1x died
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Post by garyu on Aug 23, 2020 16:17:11 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe), Askarov is supposed to be great (it's just that 1st round thing). You absolutely need to be wary of goalies AND of Russians. Who knows if he ever makes the next step, or if he ever even comes to North America. It could be a wasted pick. But the Russian goaltending school has upped their game significantly in the last decade. One could just as well end up regretting not drafting him. Georgiev, Samsonov, Shesterkin are hot names and many GM's will want a piece of that action. Though you could probably trade for Georgiev/Shesterkin. The Rangers have a bit of a dilemma at hand with Lundqvist under contract. The selection of forwards at that point in the draft is middle six type potential with a chance of a gem maybe. Or a complete bust, high chance of that too. You should know about this boards unnatural hate towards Ruskies. I agree. Think Askarov has the highest upside, though.
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Post by lari on Aug 23, 2020 19:23:17 GMT
So far people in the poll seem to be willing to play the Russian roulette.
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Post by gadi on Aug 23, 2020 23:10:57 GMT
I agree with Gary. Taking goalies might be seen at a risk, but it would be an acceptable one if Askarov fell to 17.
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Post by garyu on Aug 23, 2020 23:41:40 GMT
I agree with Gary. Taking goalies might be seen at a risk, but it would be an acceptable one if Askarov fell to 17. Great minds, bro.
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Post by Giovi on Aug 23, 2020 23:52:47 GMT
I agree with Gary. Taking goalies might be seen at a risk, but it would be an acceptable one if Askarov fell to 17. Given how many Russians wait longer to come over, or won't come over at all, I'd say drafting a Russian goalie in the 1st is rife with risk.
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Post by lari on Aug 24, 2020 12:35:48 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe) Gunler actually listed as 6'2" and more of a sniper type on other reports. He could be a very good player. Though skating is an issue.
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Post by garyu on Aug 24, 2020 13:56:21 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe) Gunler actually listed as 6'2" and more of a sniper type on other reports. He could be a very good player. Though skating is an issue. And there's the rub.
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Post by lari on Aug 24, 2020 14:26:16 GMT
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Post by khawk20 on Aug 24, 2020 14:29:34 GMT
Not crazy about any of these forwards (Gunler maybe) Gunler actually listed as 6'2" and more of a sniper type on other reports. He could be a very good player. Though skating is an issue. That's a big issue in today's NHL.
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Post by lari on Aug 24, 2020 15:01:04 GMT
They should have a quota of slow and fat players in the NHL to make things interesting and to increase scoring.
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Post by brendan on Aug 24, 2020 15:23:17 GMT
They should have a quota of slow and fat players in the NHL to make things interesting and to increase scoring. Nes hockey style? I could win with 3 fatties and a medium. Or 2 -1-1 4 fatties was hard.
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