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Post by jimc on Feb 18, 2021 2:51:55 GMT
I heard it said on tonight's broadcast that Kane was the best Hawks ever. Ot got me thinking. Could this be true?
It would always have been Bobby forever, had he not jumped to the WHA. So...is Kane...or JT or Keith or Hossa for that matter, 'better?
I think so...these guys played on the best and most successful teams in Hawks history.
Maybe 88 really is the 'best'. He will go down in history as possibly the best American born player....
I think I could vote for that...he isn't maybe 'greatest, given all the things Toews brings to the table, but 'best' to me, denotes skill.akdnoffensove production ..and nobody has done that better than Kane...plus, he has been as clutch as you could ask...big goals at critical points in games. Including a certain cup winner in Philly and cup clincher at home vs tbay...not to mention a game tyer vs Nashville that likely saved these bacon in 2010. The hatty vs Bobby Lou and the shitnucks...etc.
I didn't really know I felt this way, but I think I could vote for 88.
The maturity and leadership he has shown the last few lean years...especially this year, also really impress me.
Ask me tomorrow and I might say 19, but today I can say 88.
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Post by brendan on Feb 18, 2021 3:30:00 GMT
Kane. I think in these leaner years you see hes on a whole nother level.
Im too young for hull/mikita. But kane should end with most everything for hawks.
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Post by Merpes on Feb 18, 2021 4:25:49 GMT
Lankinen.
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Post by jimc on Feb 18, 2021 4:56:02 GMT
Kane has also managed to stay remarkably healthy
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Post by khawk20 on Feb 18, 2021 5:41:11 GMT
Kane has also managed to stay remarkably healthy Except for an injury that allowed the addition of a key cog for another cup run. ...best injury timing ever too!
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Post by garyu on Feb 18, 2021 14:29:40 GMT
Kane.
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Post by stbhawks19 on Feb 18, 2021 15:03:15 GMT
I don’t think you can overlook how clutch Kane has been in some of the biggest playoff games in Hawks history. He has almost always delivered, and seemed to always get stronger the deeper in the playoffs the team went.
A very strong argument can definitely be made for the best American born player when he finally hangs them up.
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Post by lari on Feb 18, 2021 15:31:10 GMT
I don't like naming an active player "the best ever" for a franchise. You don't even know what he will do tomorrow.
He might end up requesting a trade to the most hated rival, play ten seasons for that rival, win multiple Cups, and taunt Hawks fans with those championships and in general be a complete dick to everyone.
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Post by lari on Feb 18, 2021 15:34:15 GMT
So I will hold judgement until Kane/Toews/Keith retire, and until that time, it's still one of the two guys with statues outside the UC. Take your pick. I picked Bobby, but Mikita is on par as a player, and way ahead as a human being. I know that counts for some.
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Post by jimc on Feb 18, 2021 15:59:26 GMT
So I will hold judgement until Kane/Toews/Keith retire, and until that time, it's still one of the two guys with statues outside the UC. Take your pick. I picked Bobby, but Mikita is on par as a player, and way ahead as a human being. I know that counts for some. I can't count Bobby for the fact he quit the NHL (and Hawks) and was such a miserable human being. He is Ty Cobb.
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Post by jrsamu on Feb 18, 2021 22:21:27 GMT
Kane is the best offensive player that has worn the jersey.
If you are awarding the best all around player, there is probably room for discussion. Kane is still pretty one-dimensional, but is other worldly in that dimension. He makes everyone on the offensive end better - if he can make a 2nd liner out of Handzus at his age and stage at that point, what more discussion is needed?
Food for thought:
Playoff stats to date: goals and assists
Kane - 52 goals 80 assists
Toews - 45 goals 74 assists
Then throw in the intangibles (two-way play, face-offs, special teams). There is probably room for debate, but Kane is likely to have a much longer career (with high productivity) from a wear and tear standpoint if nothing else.
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Post by Giovi on Feb 19, 2021 2:59:45 GMT
I'm pretty sure the answer in the telecast was Mikita, but then they said that by the time Kane retires, he will have passed Mikita.
That's the way I see it. As of today, Mikita. But by the time Kane retires, it will be him.
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Post by jimc on Feb 19, 2021 6:09:45 GMT
I'm pretty sure the answer in the telecast was Mikita, but then they said that by the time Kane retires, he will have passed Mikita. That's the way I see it. As of today, Mikita. But by the time Kane retires, it will be him. What more would Kane need to accomplish? I think he needs to hit his 1000 games and 400 goals...which should happen this year. I maintained early on in his career he didn't score enough to have a shot at 500 g...I am pretty comfortable saying he is going to hit that mark. 5 years at only 20 goals per year would do it. If he retired today, he still might be #1.
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Post by lari on Feb 19, 2021 7:19:46 GMT
That's assuming he stays with Chicago.
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Post by garyu on Feb 19, 2021 13:42:02 GMT
That's assuming he stays with Chicago. Bite your filthy tongue.
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