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Post by stbhawks19 on Jul 19, 2023 13:28:27 GMT
I would trade anyone from this roster other than Hoerner and Steele. This is a very poorly constructed team that lacks any personality and is years away from competing with the big guns in the NL like ATL and LAD.
Finishing 5 below .500 to .500 is a completely wasted season.
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Post by Merpes on Jul 19, 2023 15:16:31 GMT
Trade Stroman for sure. You can keep Bellinger if you don’t get an offer you like since they will get a comp pick for him when he leaves for FA. More than likely though, the offers for Bellinger will be pretty good since he’s the best bat on the market other than Ohtani that won’t require committing 400 million to.
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Post by jrsamu on Jul 21, 2023 15:53:50 GMT
Hopefully KD is watching the Cubs situation carefully. The rebuild it meaningless until the prospect pipeline starts delivering in a significant way. If it doesn't deliver, the team will be in sell mode every trade deadline. Looking at the Hawks prospects, there don't seem to be any express trains to the NHL other than Bedard. So probably at least two more lottery draft opportunities and a hope that the teams who traded the Hawks additional high draft picks falter and those picks become more difficult to screw up.
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Post by Merpes on Jul 22, 2023 0:11:42 GMT
Baseball is a completely different animal. Draft picks can marinate for 5-7 years before they make the big leagues especially pitchers. If you’re not in the big show by 22-23 in the NHL, you’re getting pushed down the depth chart and on the quick route to career AHLer.
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Post by jrsamu on Jul 24, 2023 11:38:10 GMT
Makes sense, but the Darvish return (unless it was meant to be a salary dump) is beyond garbage at this point. Also no pitchers in that return except massively underwhelming Zach Davies. You should be seeing progress in 3-4 years.
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Post by jrsamu on Jul 26, 2023 21:32:43 GMT
It is short-term thinking because I doubt they'll fork up the cash to keep him, but the Cubs need to keep Bellinger and take the compensatory pick if he leaves. The lineup needs him and the defense needs him. Unless they bring back guaranteed players (plural) that will see substantial major league time, the choice is to keep him or write-off the rest of 2023. There are so many other holes and marginal major leaguers in other parts of the lineup already. I doubt another contender can/will provide enough return to make it worthwhile.
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Post by HawkDad on Jul 27, 2023 4:14:03 GMT
And so it begins. Giolito and Lopez to LAA for prospects. Keep the enema going.
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Post by khawk20 on Jul 27, 2023 11:34:23 GMT
Angels are buyers?
Made the call to try and get in the playoffs to maybe keep ohtani.
It’s the right call from a PR perspective but I’d bet it bites them in the ass. You know Mike trout is whispering to him “dude, get out while you can” every chance he gets…
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Post by garyu on Jul 27, 2023 13:29:37 GMT
Angels are buyers? Made the call to try and get in the playoffs to maybe keep ohtani. It’s the right call from a PR perspective but I’d bet it bites them in the ass. You know Mike trout is whispering to him “dude, get out while you can” every chance he gets… Puzzling move.
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Post by Merpes on Jul 27, 2023 13:34:18 GMT
And Stroman of course has blown chunks his last few starts. He’s always been average.
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Post by jrsamu on Jul 27, 2023 15:33:47 GMT
Stroman is example #1 of a pitcher you do not sign long-term. He had a great first half, and his slide coincided with the Cubs indicating they were not going to extend during the season. Based on his track record, they would be wise to, at a minimum, see how he finishes this year. He is, at best, a #3 or #4 starter. His performance in his career-to-date only warrants the money he is looking for if you compare him only to other overpaid free agents. Like Taillon.
There is no risk to the Cubs to let it ride. Stroman still needs to perform to maximize his dollars on an opt out. If he doesn't perform, maybe his expectations change.
You would think after being burned so many times baseball executives have to be smarter with free agent money. For as much as they've all jumped into analytics like kids in a candy store, nobody seems to be very focused on what happens to players in the first year of a new big contract when they have an outlier performance in their contract renewal year. And at that level of money, if year 1 is a train wreck, it can never be made up to be fair to the team. Is anyone surprised that Rodon has been a disaster in year 1 with the Yankees? Quintana with the Mets? deGrom with Texas? The definition of insanity...
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Post by HawkDad on Jul 28, 2023 23:06:25 GMT
Big Bastard, Worthless Joe Kelly, and Can't Pitch On Consecutive Days all gone. Enema continues, damn straight. Still several cancerous moles to be moved.
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Post by garyu on Jul 29, 2023 0:35:14 GMT
Big Bastard, Worthless Joe Kelly, and Can't Pitch On Consecutive Days all gone. Enema continues, damn straight. Still several cancerous moles to be moved. Kendall Graveman to Houston.
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Post by Merpes on Jul 29, 2023 1:00:20 GMT
White Sox rebuilding since 2005.
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Post by HawkDad on Jul 29, 2023 1:55:16 GMT
These things take time ya know.
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