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Post by soccer24 on Nov 14, 2017 15:45:34 GMT
But do you see him getting hired as a full-on GM? The whole league knows he inherited most of what he had for the first one, and caught a lot of breaks along the way with the next two...which any GM needs to do to win a Cup, to be fair. But it's his trades trying to hold it together that I think would make other owners hesitant about trying him out on a team that isn't already basically built to win, and most of those contenders at this point have been fostered by the guys put in place there. None of those guys are gonna get moved out on because they forgot to have their lickspittle mail out qualifying offers to several RFAs.
Trust me; I get what you're saying.
But the perception outside of Chicago is that he's a genius.
Keep in mind that people are just now starting to realize that Ken Holland doesn't have "it" anymore. And he's been awful for quite a while now.
Stan should be able to get at least one more GM gig, assuming he doesn't leave Chicago in a 2006 state. That will probably be the most important thing: How long does he stay here before he's canned? He gets at least one more coach after Q, you have to figure.
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Post by jimc on Nov 14, 2017 15:58:14 GMT
Stan was literally only hired as a throw-in when they brought in scotty.
He was Tallon's capologist...ooooops
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Post by khawk20 on Nov 14, 2017 16:02:17 GMT
Maybe subbing "President of Hockey Ops" over "Owners" makes it a more feasible question.
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Post by garyu on Nov 14, 2017 16:27:22 GMT
Maybe subbing "President of Hockey Ops" over "Owners" makes it a more feasible question. Stan needs a complete change of scenery.
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Post by jimc on Nov 14, 2017 17:02:34 GMT
He is a complete and total failure
I hope he does get hired somewhere else...because there will be one less team in contention for a cup. And the hawks might one day challenge again.
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Post by lari on Nov 14, 2017 17:10:51 GMT
He is a complete and total failure I hope he does get hired somewhere else...because there will be one less team in contention for a cup. Let's hope it's Montreal.
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Post by jimc on Nov 14, 2017 17:18:55 GMT
I forgot...Leddy for Pokka!!!
Teuvo (who has more goals than captain useless) a giveaway on the Bickell deal....outstanding!
All because of stan's capfail
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Post by lari on Nov 14, 2017 17:37:11 GMT
Maybe subbing "President of Hockey Ops" over "Owners" makes it a more feasible question. Only slightly less senile.
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Post by lari on Nov 14, 2017 19:14:30 GMT
Have I mentioned how bad Keith was in this game? He's not the same player he was before. Is it even the same person wearing the sweater anymore? He's got *some* physical attributes, but his decision making is lacking and he feels defeated. He's pushed around a lot, and instead of relentlessly sticking to his man, he stays down, gives up.
I guess it takes its toll being the only decent d-man on a hockey team. He gets fucked in the ass, and gets no support.
Offensively he is completely useless. I'd rather Franson, Seabrook, Kempny, anyone, QB the powerplay before Keith gets thrown out there.
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Post by khawk20 on Nov 14, 2017 19:22:38 GMT
Keith I almost give a pass on. Not like he has a steady-ish partner to rely on anymore in either Hammer or Seabs.
He has to be thinking he has to do more than he ever did, and that mentality makes mistakes far easier to make.
Seeing the construct of this team has to be disheartening to him as well. And yes that certainly can and does make a difference in vets that are coming off so many years of success.
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Post by jimc on Nov 14, 2017 19:50:43 GMT
He gives away the puck and gets got out of position like he used to, but he no longer has the top-end wheels to get back and cover for his mistakes...as well, he doesn't motor as well out of his own end any more...he is in serious decline.
Seabrook has fallen off a cliff.
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Post by garyu on Nov 14, 2017 20:18:06 GMT
He gives away the puck and gets got out of position like he used to, but he no longer has the top-end wheels to get back and cover for his mistakes...as well, he doesn't motor as well out of his own end any more...he is in serious decline. Seabrook has fallen off a cliff. 'And the times, they are a-changing'....
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Post by jimc on Nov 15, 2017 1:34:36 GMT
Thanks, Bob
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Post by garyu on Nov 15, 2017 2:13:15 GMT
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Post by Merpes on Nov 15, 2017 2:21:19 GMT
Keith can no longer use his stick like he is trying to chop wood. That was inevitably part of his game at his peak. He's gonna be 35, no? No reason to expect him to play like a number 1 much longer. He might have one more hail mary season in which he rekindles the magic. I'd keep him off the PP at all costs to reduce his minutes. He's been useless there for years as it is...because Q. Forsling should be given the PP QB reigns from here on out.
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