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Oct 25, 2017 3:59:47 GMT
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 3:59:47 GMT
Forsling...Kempny...Murphy...Osterle
LMFAO
A true clown car...and only getting worse when Rutta comes back to reality
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 25, 2017 4:09:13 GMT
This topic was overdue. Hawks had a hot start, but reality is coming to fruition now.
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Oct 25, 2017 4:33:03 GMT
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Post by Pez68 on Oct 25, 2017 4:33:03 GMT
The coaching staff and system are the bigger problem with this team. I'm almost hoping the Hawks shit the bed and lose a good 10-15 games in a row if it gets Q canned... Tired of watching a team win in spite of their coaching staff.
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 25, 2017 4:36:18 GMT
Lol, speaking of the coaching staff, they just called a timeout with 7 seconds left down by 2.
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Oct 25, 2017 4:38:40 GMT
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 4:38:40 GMT
These losers arent winning shit with any coaching staff
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Oct 25, 2017 6:24:56 GMT
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Post by lari on Oct 25, 2017 6:24:56 GMT
Oesterle needs to go. He was brutal.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 25, 2017 10:39:49 GMT
These losers arent winning shit with any coaching staff I dunno Jim. As noted in the game thread, Gallant has the Knights playing in a way that allows them to be successful as long as they execute properly. Hawks could be a lot better with a workable system. BUT the problem is that canning Q just ends up promoting one of his assistants, and I am not sure Dineen would be a guy that would bring enough change to the team to make a difference.
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Post by lari on Oct 25, 2017 11:32:55 GMT
I just thought of this but it's crazy how Quenneville has been the Hawks coach for almost ten years now (started 2008). That's amazing in today's NHL. The second longest tenure is currently held by Jon Cooper and he started in 2013. Most current head coaches started their tenures in 2016 or 2017.
Would definitely be interesting to see what a different coach could do with this core, while there is maybe still some life left there.
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Oct 25, 2017 13:37:19 GMT
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Post by jimc on Oct 25, 2017 13:37:19 GMT
These losers arent winning shit with any coaching staff I dunno Jim. As noted in the game thread, Gallant has the Knights playing in a way that allows them to be successful as long as they execute properly. Hawks could be a lot better with a workable system. BUT the problem is that canning Q just ends up promoting one of his assistants, and I am not sure Dineen would be a guy that would bring enough change to the team to make a difference. I was talking about the hawks
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Oct 25, 2017 14:01:58 GMT
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Post by stbhawks19 on Oct 25, 2017 14:01:58 GMT
Seabrook, not Hammer, should’ve been the one traded.
Murphy blows.
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Post by soccer24 on Oct 25, 2017 14:06:56 GMT
Seriously, what was the logic behind that Hjalmarsson trade? "Hm, I think the defense is weak on the team. So I'm going to trade my best defensive defensemen toooooo.... Uhhhm.... What team has a good stockpile of defensemen to choose from?? Oh I know! The Coyotes!!!" This makes no sense. Anyway, here's a very damning graphic of the season so far. Here is where the Hawks allow shots from most often. Red areas mean you allow more shots than the league average in that particular zone: hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/shotLocDef/1718/CHI/wrap
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 25, 2017 14:07:20 GMT
Seabrook, not Hammer, should’ve been the one traded. With that contract Stunley would have had to throw in DeBrincat or more to make it happen. (doesn't matter right now from the way things look but in a few years that one might have hurt)
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Post by garyu on Oct 25, 2017 14:38:52 GMT
Seabrook, not Hammer, should’ve been the one traded. With that contract Stunley would have had to throw in DeBrincat or more to make it happen. (doesn't matter right now from the way things look but in a few years that one might have hurt) I believe the 'Stunned One' gave Seabs an iron clad NMC too.
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 25, 2017 15:00:33 GMT
yeah I think Gary is right.
soccer hit it on the head with the whole Hammer trade logic. It is the kind of move that often ends up being the undoing of a team under a GM and precipitates a GM change...unfortunately often after the team's trajectory has turned nose-down without much chance to correct the flight path.
I think almost every GM has "that one" trade that dooms them. Maybe this will be Stan's?
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Post by khawk20 on Oct 25, 2017 15:04:39 GMT
Forsling...Kempny...Murphy...Osterle LMFAO A true clown car...and only getting worse when Rutta comes back to reality If you plug one of them into a D-corps and let them learn and grow that's fine. They all have the potential to be decent D-men in my mind. But...asking them all to play more than they should, instead of being spotted in situations that they could not only learn but not have their confidence ruined in the process...not good for anyone involved and will likely stunt the growth of each of them over the course of the season.
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