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Post by markwojo on Feb 9, 2018 22:04:27 GMT
Why would the Hawks need to trade Hossa? Unless you expect Stan to sign big money UFA's in July. A proper rebuild means younger players on ELC's. No need to dump salary to gain cap space. You KEEP your negative value contracts, because trading them means pissing away assets as sweeteners. You really think the Hawks are going to do a tear it down to the ground rebuild? I don't envision them wasting Kane and Toews prime years (or what should be in Toews case) on a full rebuild. With the 10.5 millionz twinzees, Keith, Seabs, Crow all with no movement clauses....you can't tear it all down anyways. I picture more of an on the fly rebuild. Jettison Hossa's deal for cap space, move Anisimov to free more cap, hopefully suck the rest of this season to get at least a top 10 pick and maybe luck into a top 5 in a pretty deep draft, have inflation bump the cap ceiling a decent chunk, consolidate all the one year shit deals on the books into something tangible (Sharp, Bouma, Wingels, Franson, Rozy, Kempny, TooToo, Jurco), regain Panarin bonus overage and suddenly we are flush with some significant cash (which doesn't have to be used just on UFA's....there are always opportunities for teams that have cap to make nice additions). Very simply, if you move Hossa's contract and trade Anisimov, you are committed to 54 million in payroll going into the Summer. The only unsigned guys I give 2 shits about are RFA's Duclair, Hartman, Hinostrosa, Hayden, and UFA Rutta which you should be able to figure out and still be at 60-62 million. Figure the cap comes in approach 80, and you have plenty room to add a top 4 dman, middle 6 winger, a bottom 6 center, and plug the rest with kids a few of which should take as step next year after taking lumps this (picture Schmaltz from last to this). Again, probably a UFA or 2 and an opportunistic trade or two because someone is always what we have been the last decade....strapped and giving away talent because of it.
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Post by Pez68 on Feb 9, 2018 22:14:41 GMT
Hawks are 6 points away from the top 5 right now... And a couple of those teams behind them, have games in hand.
The cap situation really isn't all that dire. Cap is going up. They have a ton of wasted cap space coming off the books next season. Hossa's cap hit is imaginary, because if they wanted to, they could use the LTIR space. That contract is movable, anyway.
There will be no tear it down and rebuild. And there's no reason to yet.
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Post by garyu on Feb 9, 2018 22:41:22 GMT
Hawks are 6 points away from the top 5 right now... And a couple of those teams behind them, have games in hand. The cap situation really isn't all that dire. Cap is going up. They have a ton of wasted cap space coming off the books next season. Hossa's cap hit is imaginary, because if they wanted to, they could use the LTIR space. That contract is movable, anyway. There will be no tear it down and rebuild. And there's no reason to yet. Good. Cause Stan is easily confused.
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Post by lari on Feb 9, 2018 23:29:11 GMT
So you're all in favour of bringing in star UFA's this summer?
To make use of the Toews contract? Just a reminder: Toews sucks now. He is not even a top 25 center in the league anymore. Not someone you build a contender around.
I think you let the pieces fall in to place. Toews and Kane play out their contracts, and the Hawks won't be competitive during that time. They might make the playoffs sometimes though. And we all rejoice, quietly hoping for a miracle, but at the same time leafing our One Goal books in search of nostalgia.
Winning the Cup with Toews & Kane now is like the Canucks trying to win with the Sedins as their core piece.
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Post by Merpes on Feb 10, 2018 1:03:26 GMT
Sedins are UFA after this season, no? Do you think those cock gobblers will entertain a trade? I imagine it would have to be a trade where both go to the same team. Is fucking your brother in the ass commonplace in Sweden?
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Post by garyu on Feb 10, 2018 3:06:12 GMT
Sedins are UFA after this season, no? Do you think those cock gobblers will entertain a trade? I imagine it would have to be a trade where both go to the same team. Is fucking your brother in the ass commonplace in Sweden? Well, that's what I heard...
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Post by gadi on Feb 11, 2018 2:54:17 GMT
Even if Vegas is overachieving, they are still a solid playoff team The very fact that they have a ton of cap space for next year suggests they're more likely to sign UFAs than take on more bad contacts to get some more picks.
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Post by jimc on Feb 11, 2018 13:31:23 GMT
Hawks are 6 points away from the top 5 right now... And a couple of those teams behind them, have games in hand. The cap situation really isn't all that dire. Cap is going up. They have a ton of wasted cap space coming off the books next season. Hossa's cap hit is imaginary, because if they wanted to, they could use the LTIR space. That contract is movable, anyway. There will be no tear it down and rebuild. And there's no reason to yet. Hawks will be into the bonus overage by close to a mil...because although you can replace LTIR salary, you cant use it to satisfy bonus commitments. And yes, there is every reason to tear down this crumbling outhouse of a team.
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Post by garyu on Feb 11, 2018 15:16:20 GMT
Hawks are 6 points away from the top 5 right now... And a couple of those teams behind them, have games in hand. The cap situation really isn't all that dire. Cap is going up. They have a ton of wasted cap space coming off the books next season. Hossa's cap hit is imaginary, because if they wanted to, they could use the LTIR space. That contract is movable, anyway. There will be no tear it down and rebuild. And there's no reason to yet. Hawks will be into the bonus overage by close to a mil...because although you can replace LTIR salary, you cant use it to satisfy bonus commitments. And yes, there is every reason to tear down this crumbling outhouse of a team. No-no.....Stan said he made his moves to make the team younger, didn't wanna be hanging on to an old, fading team...How'd that work?
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Post by jimc on Feb 12, 2018 3:57:26 GMT
Fucking awesome...especially that used condom of a D corps.
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Post by garyu on Feb 12, 2018 12:07:54 GMT
Fucking awesome...especially that used condom of a D corps. Soon all 6 will be named Sven.
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